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Sen.: White House Agrees to Spy Law Change
AP ^ | 2/16/6 | KATHERINE SHRADER

Posted on 02/16/2006 1:02:52 PM PST by SmithL

WASHINGTON -- Senate Intelligence Chairman Pat Roberts said he has worked out an agreement with the White House to change U.S. law regarding the National Security Agency's warrantless surveillance program and provide more information about it to Congress.

"We are trying to get some movement, and we have a clear indication of that movement," Roberts, R-Kan., said.

Without offering specifics, Roberts said the agreement with the White House provides "a fix" to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and offers more briefings to the Senate Intelligence Committee.

The deal comes as the committee was set to have a meeting Thursday about whether to open an investigation into the hotly disputed program. Roberts indicated the deal may eliminate the need for such an inquiry. Democrats have been demanding an investigation but some Republicans don't want to tangle the panel in a testy election-year probe.

"Whether or not an investigation is the right thing to do at this particular time, I am not sure," Roberts told reporters while heading into the meeting.

The White House was not immediately available for comment on Roberts' statement.

Earlier in the day, White House spokesman Scott McClellan hinted at a "good discussion going on" with lawmakers and praised in particular "some good ideas" presented by Sen. Mike DeWine. The Ohio Republican has suggested the FISA law be changed to accommodate the NSA program.

However, McClellan left the impression that any deal would not allow for significant changes. He said the White House continued to maintain that Bush does not need Congress' approval to authorize the warrantless eavesdropping and that the president would resist any legislation that might compromise the program.

"There's kind of a high bar to overcome," McClellan said. "We think there's some good ideas, but we have not seen actual legislation."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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1 posted on 02/16/2006 1:02:52 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Congress is full of stupid inept people. When you find you have stupid inept people working for you and you can't just fire them, you at least give them LESS resposibility, not MORE.


2 posted on 02/16/2006 1:08:35 PM PST by NRA1995 (If feminists are so smart, why do they need masturbation workshops?)
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To: SmithL

I hope the "fix" is...."We're just gonna keep on doin what we're doin and you blowhards in the Senate can just STFU!"


3 posted on 02/16/2006 1:10:51 PM PST by digger48
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To: SmithL
Feels like We the People have been shot from behind--by our own Representatives & Senators!

Now they're going to deny our intelligence agencies & President Bush more power to find & fight the terrorists.

4 posted on 02/16/2006 1:11:33 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: SmithL

I hope this means that shortly, We will not hear this story anymore.


5 posted on 02/16/2006 1:12:59 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: digger48
IMO, nothing of significance will change. This is to give cover to too smart by half Pubbies who talked out of turn.
6 posted on 02/16/2006 1:19:02 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (It is easy to call for a pi$$ing contest when you aren't going to be in the line of fire.)
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To: SmithL
...the agreement with the White House provides "a fix" to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and offers more briefings to the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Bad move by Bush.

First, this is tantamount to saying that Bush did something wrong -- he didn't. Why is he giving his enemies ammunition against himself?

Second, it gives the Congress more war powers than they need to have. Congress has the power to shut off the money flow to any war they don't like, but giving them more of a nose under the intelligence tent than they already have will be a disaster for any conservative President. Especially if the Intelligence Committee is staffed with liberals.

Third, no matter what law Congress "fixes" it is unconstitutional if it encroaches upon the war time powers of the President that's laid out in the Constitution.

7 posted on 02/16/2006 1:19:10 PM PST by Noachian (To control the courts the people must first control their Congress.)
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To: wolfcreek

Not me, the longer this thing goes on the worse the Democrats look.


8 posted on 02/16/2006 1:19:12 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: digger48

Sounds like another "Signing Statement" might be attached.


9 posted on 02/16/2006 1:21:50 PM PST by Freedom is eternally right
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To: ExcursionGuy84

No, what is occuring is that Democrats don't want hearings on anissue they are losing badly in an election year. It re-inforces their weakness on national security. RINO's realize they overshot on the issue as well, but feel they need cover since they already ran their mouths.

So Congress will "authorize" what the W.H. already does so it can feel important, and justify it's rhetorical excesses. The W.H. is allowing Congress the ability to engineer this cover for its members since foolish Republicans joined Democrats in critisism.

In the end the program continues, the W.H. does not relent on its Constitutional right to do this, and Senators retreat with tail between legs but will say to their constituents they protected their 'civil liberties' and the new useless legislation is proof.

The W.H. won this battle.

Well, to an extent. Obviously knowledge of the program has dampened its effectiveness, and the leakers need to be brought up on charges. Even if one of them is Rockefellar.


10 posted on 02/16/2006 1:22:01 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

That's kinda the way I took it.

Even the skewed-left polls were showing a loser for those whining about this.


11 posted on 02/16/2006 1:22:45 PM PST by digger48
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To: Soul Seeker
In the end the program continues, the W.H. does not relent on its Constitutional right to do this, and Senators retreat with tail between legs

I'll be praying to The FATHER that what You said will come to pass.

12 posted on 02/16/2006 1:24:04 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: traderrob6
...the longer this thing goes on the worse the Democrats look

They haven't looked good or respectable in 30 years.

13 posted on 02/16/2006 1:25:07 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: ExcursionGuy84
Yeah - the program continues - but at what level of effectiveness? I have no idea what other methods of communication Al Quaeda is using - but the endless attention this has received has meant they're not using phones anymore for critical communications.
14 posted on 02/16/2006 2:02:48 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Soul Seeker

The ONLY reason that I can see....for Bush to capitulate to the idiot Congresscritters...is to get this off his back...and to facilitate the DOJ investigation into who leaked to the NYTimes...


15 posted on 02/16/2006 2:13:54 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: SmithL
The deal comes as the committee was set to have a meeting Thursday about whether to open an investigation into the hotly disputed program. Roberts indicated the deal may eliminate the need for such an inquiry. Democrats have been demanding an investigation but some Republicans don't want to tangle the panel in a testy election-year probe.

open an investigation might have had something to do with it

We don't want these documents to be open to all to see .. including the terrorists

I'll wait till more information is known

But it does look like Congress just screwed the american people because of their ego's and their need to know

The traitors that are leaking this classified information should be prosecuted

CONGRESS IS NOT ABOVE THE LAW !!

16 posted on 02/16/2006 2:23:25 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: SmithL

Duh.. we might as well "fix" it.. the program is blown wide open so it doesn't matter now anymore anyways.

Just make the fix.. the congress criters get to look good and they don't have to "worry" about the small portion of the American public that thought we needed a "fix" in the first place.


17 posted on 02/16/2006 3:10:06 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: Noachian

Remember, though, this is a liberal press trying to find a reason to show Bush "defeated". In the end, this will likely amount to a lot of huffing and puffing....Bush saying, "The executive branch will continue its practice. You legislators can bless it if you like. Thank you and good night."


18 posted on 02/16/2006 3:45:44 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: Soul Seeker
The W.H. won this battle. Well, to an extent. Obviously knowledge of the program has dampened its effectiveness, and the leakers need to be brought up on charges. Even if one of them is Rockefellar.

ESPECIALLY if it is Leakyfeller.

19 posted on 02/16/2006 4:29:25 PM PST by Christian4Bush (I'd much rather hunt with Dick Cheney than to ride with Ted Kennedy.)
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To: SmithL

Big Mistake for Bush to back up on this issue.

He is the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, and we are at war.

This war cannot be fought by committee. Especially a committee with the combined IQ of the Congress, regardless of party affiliation.


20 posted on 02/16/2006 6:38:43 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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