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Thoughts on Quail Hunting and Abortion
Townhall.com ^ | 2/16/2006 | Mike Adams

Posted on 02/16/2006 6:50:27 AM PST by dson7_ck1249

In my thirteen years as a college professor, I’ve never seen joy and celebration that rivals the response to Dick Cheney’s hunting accident. Of course, that’s really saying something. Bringing American professors to laughter is nearly as tough as bringing American feminists to orgasm. It’s a theoretical possibility that is seldom achieved without a workshop.

The liberal reaction to Cheney’s accident may vary slightly from liberal to liberal but there is one common characteristic; namely, these liberals feel morally superior because they’ve never shot someone on a hunting trip....

Of course, the fact that.....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; cheney; hunting; hypocrisy; liberals; media; quail; quailgate
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To: wbill

If someone tracks target A and hits object B out of carelessness or negligence, you're saying that the person 'deliberately pointed his gun at B and fired'?

Don't take it personally. What you're saying just happens to be absurd.


41 posted on 02/16/2006 8:37:17 AM PST by non-anonymous
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To: wbill
What's the difference? Unless the shotgun fired itself, Cheney took aim at (I'm assuming) a quail and fired while his hunting partner was in the line of fire. There's nothing to excuse here, and, unless he's taking the blame for someone else, the evidence is pretty clear cut.

You are correct of course, but, I suspect there will be many a cheap political apologist quite addicted to doing battle with reality, that will not believe you.

42 posted on 02/16/2006 8:43:34 AM PST by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: ThanhPhero; conservativehusker
Actually, with this, you sound like someone who this season got his first-ever hunting license and just made or are about to make his first hunting trip. ...No.

I think that incidents like this give anti-hunters excellent things to point at and say - "See, I told you....". The reality is that the vast majority of hunters are responsible sportsmen and the only way to change the overall perception is by acting like it. Of all the hunters on this thread, how many of you can say that you've shot, or even shot at, a hunting partner?

Maybe we're all chewing on the meaning of 'deliberately' here. In my book, when you make a conscious decision to fire your weapon, you need to be positive of what you're shooting at and where the members of your party are. OK, so the victim in this case didn't announce himself before coming back....but Cheney still bears the ultimate responsiblity for marking his target and firing the shotgun.

Jeez, am I the only one here that thinks this way? Do all of you walk into the woods and start gunning at anything that moves?

And FWIW, I voted for Cheney, twice. I think that he's a good man and a good politican. But, he made a mistake, he's owned up to it, and now he needs to face the consequences. Should he be put up on criminal charges? IMO, no. Should he face civil punishment, like revocation of his license? I think, yes.

43 posted on 02/16/2006 8:56:57 AM PST by wbill
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To: non-anonymous
If someone tracks target A and hits object B out of carelessness or negligence, you're saying that the person 'deliberately pointed his gun at B and fired'?

"Deliberate" is used for both a measured action (something controlled by someone) and an intentional action (something preconceived by someone). The context is important here.

44 posted on 02/16/2006 8:59:23 AM PST by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: eskimo
"Deliberate" is used for both a measured action (something controlled by someone) and an intentional action (something preconceived by someone).

Thanks, someone finally gets it.

45 posted on 02/16/2006 9:24:15 AM PST by wbill
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To: wbill

He doesn't need to face any more consequences than you or I would face in the same situation. He should not get special punishment just because he is a Republican that MMSM and Ted K don't like. There are NO legal consequences beyone the citation he has, indeed received. Psychological consequences are not yours or mine to choose but chances are that he is aghast that he had that kind of accident and feels bad about it. As for impresing the anti hunting left, well, that is an excercise in futility no matter how you do it. Ignore them. They have no bearing on what should or should not happen and whatever happens does not affect their view of hunters short of using tactical nukes in the forest.


46 posted on 02/16/2006 10:18:37 AM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: ThanhPhero
He doesn't need to face any more consequences than you or I would face in the same situation ...agreed. I didn't know that he had been cited. I'm surprised that that's all there is to it.

And I also agree with you on impressing the anti-hunters. They're sure that guns are eeeeeeeevil.... etc etc etc, when I'm equally sure that most of them aren't positive which end is supposed to point at a target. Witness the MSM talking about pellet guns, and rifle fire, in this incident.

About the best we can do is act responsibly, and not give them any fodder to cement their beliefs.

47 posted on 02/16/2006 10:40:30 AM PST by wbill
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To: dson7_ck1249

I have the utmost sympathy for Dick Cheney, as I once came very close to doing the same thing.


48 posted on 02/16/2006 10:43:05 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: wbill

Third factor you may not have thought about:

Maybe the folks in your neck of the woods have been luckier.


49 posted on 02/16/2006 10:46:03 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: wbill
Cheney deliberately pointed his shotgun at someone and fired.

I've got to take issue with your statement. Dick mistakenly pointed his shotgun at someone and fired, is accurate.

I've been peppered twice in 40 years of hunting, once my fault, once the other guy's, chukkar and quail. This is part of the risk, and Dick did violate rule 4, however, "deliberately" is completely untrue and inaccurate.

50 posted on 02/16/2006 10:54:03 AM PST by Navy Patriot (At times like this, it is a pleasure to support Free Republic.)
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To: dson7_ck1249

Bringing American professors to laughter is nearly as tough as bringing American feminists to orgasm.

HAHAHAHAHAH! So true, he hit the nail on the head


51 posted on 02/16/2006 11:36:25 AM PST by spaatzcadet
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