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A second Iraqi former commander confirms WMDs
American Thinker ^ | 2/15/06 | Thomas Lifeson

Posted on 02/15/2006 11:09:14 AM PST by pissant

Slowly, very slowly, we are beginning to discover what happened to the WMDs of Saddam. The left and the antique media have made it an article of faith that there never were any WMDs, and that “Bush lied.” So deep is their investment in a political position premised on this conclusion that they will pay no attention to contrary evidence.

Via Peter Glover’s website Wires from the bunker, we learn of an interview between Ali Ibrahim al-Tikriti, a southern regional commander for Saddam Hussein’s Fedayeen militia in the late 1980s and a personal friend of the dictator and Ryan Mauro of Worldthreats.com.

Only two weeks ago, General Sada, formerly Sadaam’s no 2 Air Force Commander, told the New York Sun that Sadaam’s WMD was moved to Syria just six weeks before the US-led invasion. Now Ali Ibrahim confirms this and explains the underlying strategy of Saddam:

I know Saddam’s weapons are in Syria due to certain military deals that were made going as far back as the late 1980’s that dealt with the event that either capitols were threatened with being overrun by an enemy nation. Not to mention I have discussed this in-depth with various contacts of mine who have confirmed what I already knew. At this point Saddam knew that the United States were eventually going to come for his weapons and the United States wasn’t going to just let this go like they did in the original Gulf War. He knew that he had lied for this many years and wanted to maintain legitimacy with the pan Arab nationalists. He also has wanted since he took power to embarrass the West and this was the perfect opportunity to do so. After Saddam denied he had such weapons why would he use them or leave them readily available to be found? That would only legitimize President Bush, who he has a personal grudge against. What we are witnessing now is many who opposed the war to begin with are rallying around Saddam saying we overthrew a sovereign leader based on a lie about WMD. This is exactly what Saddam wanted and predicted.

Moreover, Ali Ibrahim debunks other shibboleths of the left, including the allegation of no ties between al Qaeda terror and Saddam:

As far as Al-Qaeda is concerned this support was limited for a long time, mainly due to the fact that Al-Qaeda had the hopes of creating an Islamic empire while Saddam wanted a secular Arab nationalist empire. They only really came to terms in the mid-90’s due to the fact that both knew they shared the same short term enemy. Once they came to terms on this Saddam provided Al-Qaeda with intelligence support and whatever money or munitions they could provide. Saddam has had very long standing contacts in the black market as well as with Moscow and would provide whatever munitions he could through these contacts.

He also addresses the claim that the US bears responsibility for bringing Saddam to power and for armning him with WMDs:

This is absolutely ludicrous. I was in the Ba’athist Revolution who received support from the Soviet Union because of the socialist ideology behind it. The Soviet Union openly supported and backed the Ba’athist revolution in Iraq at the time and I am sure you can find news articles about it in European press agencies and others at the time. I was there helping with the revolution and worked on two occasions with Soviet KGB officials to help train us, much like the United States did with the Taliban during the Soviet campaign in Afghanistan. The United States never directly gave us any WMDs but rather ingredients. They were not mixed and these ‘ingredients’ could have been easily used for commercial use but were rather used to build low life chemical weapons.

The tape recordings of Saddam discussing WMDs are said by Ryan Mauro of Worldthreats.com to be a “smoking cannon.” If all of this information proves out, the left in the US and UK are going to face an awful reckoning. As usual, it will take some time for the new information to travel from the blogosphere to the alternative media, and finally into the antique media.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: dripdripdrip; iraq; sada; saddam; wmd
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The truth will get out. Hopefully, just in time for the 2006 elections. We NEED to bury the Traitor Party for good.
1 posted on 02/15/2006 11:09:16 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
Agreed, on many levels. If ultimately confirmed and verified by a credible third party, this would send the Left "out of the blue and into the black" in terms of sheer fury and insanity.

And I'll happily stand and wave goodbye...

2 posted on 02/15/2006 11:12:07 AM PST by kromike
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To: pissant

Well obviously these two have been tortured into making all these lies. Cindy Sheehan told me so it must be true. ;-)


3 posted on 02/15/2006 11:13:05 AM PST by rhombus
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To: pissant

Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman - the only honorable Democrats in the USA.

Where are decent Democrats hiding? Find a few more......since a 2 party system is imperative for this republic to survive.


4 posted on 02/15/2006 11:16:19 AM PST by sodpoodle (I have no idea how I got here - but I like it and I plan to stay.)
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To: kromike

The MSM is NOT a credible third party. We are going to have to rely on national Review, the blogosphere, Rush and us to spread the word.

The traitors at the NY TImes will not cover this, unless to try to debunk it. Guaranteed.


5 posted on 02/15/2006 11:18:18 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

Regardless of whether or not it's "politically correct" or would make Bush seem as if he is saying "I told you so", I want Bush to address the American public (during Prime Time) in regards to these two commanders' admissions and the WMD tapes.


6 posted on 02/15/2006 11:18:58 AM PST by I'm ALL Right!
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To: rhombus

Cindy spoke recently? I thought she was too busy with Hugo Chavez's **** in her mouth.


7 posted on 02/15/2006 11:19:26 AM PST by pissant
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To: sodpoodle

SP!?! How the heck are you????

I agree with your analysis. There was a time when both parties were patriotic. Vietnam changed that. Now one is a pack of traitors.


8 posted on 02/15/2006 11:21:02 AM PST by pissant
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Cindy spoke recently? I thought she was too busy with Hugo Chavez's **** in her mouth.

That's disgusting... How could Hugo put up with that?

9 posted on 02/15/2006 11:21:50 AM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

I think he will. My recommendation is for next October for a prime time address.


10 posted on 02/15/2006 11:22:14 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
Not unless someone comes forth with with the actual WMDs will this get any traction at all.

And I don't see that happening at all.

All of this will simply be denied.
Now if Saddam was truly byzantine, he would cut a deal with the US to spare his life for exchange for coming clean on the whole deal.

But I do believe that he feels that his life is virtually over and his sons are dead, therefore he is more interested in his place in history as a great Arab leader than in living out his declining years like Noriega.
11 posted on 02/15/2006 11:23:02 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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"Slowly, very slowly, we are beginning to discover what happened to the WMDs of Saddam."

Who cares...the VP has a gun.

12 posted on 02/15/2006 11:23:04 AM PST by CWOJackson (Tancredo? Wasn't he the bounty hunter in Star Wars?)
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To: cspackler

ROFL!!!


13 posted on 02/15/2006 11:23:18 AM PST by pissant
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To: rhombus
either that or the MSM's will claim that this person is making all this up.....

I have said it for a long time even after President Bush said there were No WMD's that they were moved to Syria. Jeez I am a genious.
14 posted on 02/15/2006 11:24:09 AM PST by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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To: bill1952

It may not in the MSM, even if the WMD's are deliverd to the NY Times' headquarters.

But the MSM is dying and going down in a heap of foul dust. Enough alternative press will make this story more than alive. We get Rush, Brit Hume, Hannity, NRO, WSJ etc on this, it will be enough.


15 posted on 02/15/2006 11:26:47 AM PST by pissant
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To: CWOJackson

And he never misses his target. ;o)


16 posted on 02/15/2006 11:27:29 AM PST by pissant
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To: vin-one

that they were moved to Syria. Jeez I am a genious.""


Me too.


17 posted on 02/15/2006 11:29:07 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: CWOJackson; doug from upland

bookmarking

and hearing a DFU song set to Aerosmith's "Janie's got a Gun"


18 posted on 02/15/2006 11:30:57 AM PST by Betis70
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To: CWOJackson

Bahahahaaa!


19 posted on 02/15/2006 11:31:22 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: vin-one
that they were moved to Syria

I recall reports of trucks heading out of Iraq and into to Syria just before the war and of course who can forget that "accidental" attack on a Russian convey removing God knows what from Iraq.

20 posted on 02/15/2006 11:35:05 AM PST by rhombus
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