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Lockheed Martin /Test Accomplishments/Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System II - HELLFIREĀ® Junior
PRNewswire on Yahoo.com ^ | 2/15/06 | PRNewswire

Posted on 02/15/2006 10:33:32 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: Carry_Okie

C-O, I was kidding. It is indeed a perfectly valid question.

My guess is, the laser is in an infrared range that is less subject to Rayleigh Scatter than visible light.


21 posted on 02/15/2006 10:56:06 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Ah, a British Knock-off of our Hellfire.

They could market it just like generic perfumes: "Brimstone Air Launched Anti-Armor Weapon (Kills just like Lockheed's Hellfire)"

22 posted on 02/15/2006 10:58:26 AM PST by Sax
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To: NormsRevenge

But still we can't find a way to stop the f*cking insurgents from planting roadside bombs along our convoy routes in the dead of night. What happened to the obervation balloons I read about at the outset of the war? What about the radio control planes equipped with cameras that can be monitored from a distance? We should have dozens or even hundreds of those flying around at night. It doesn't take an Air Force officer to fly one of those and keep an eye on a monitor, for crying out loud.


23 posted on 02/15/2006 11:01:53 AM PST by travlnmn41
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To: Sax

"Ah, a British Knock-off of our Hellfire."

Not a British knock-off. It was built by the American maker of the Hellfire for the British military.


24 posted on 02/15/2006 11:02:59 AM PST by webstersII
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To: NormsRevenge
HELLFIRE® Junior

Disclaimer: The HELLFIRE® Junior is not affiliated with or associated with Freeper® Junior.

25 posted on 02/15/2006 11:07:14 AM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: webstersII
Looks like Marconi was prime & Boeing a sub. Lockheed makes the Hellfire. Seems like the contractors simply employed a remora-style marketing approach to hitch a ride on the fame of Lockheed's estabilished brand name.

The prime contract and weapon Design Authority is Alenia Marconi Systems (formerly GEC-Marconi) based in Stanmore and, while experienced in defence programmes, this is their first time as a weapon prime contractor. Their major sub-contractor is Boeing North American based in Duluth, Georgia who supply the missile bus and launcher electronics assembly. Flight Refuelling Ltd is the Design Authority for the launcher structure with Air Log Ltd, producing the missile container.

26 posted on 02/15/2006 11:10:18 AM PST by Sax
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To: NormsRevenge

I'm sure this will be another in a long line of Army munitions success stories. The Hellfire is so reliable and deadly that ALL of the US Armed Forces have adopted it as an anti-tank/anti-armor/anti-bunker weapon for a wide variety of platforms.

GO ARMY!!!


27 posted on 02/15/2006 11:10:53 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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The Norwegian's bought 'em for coastal defense too. Mounted them on fast attack patrol boats.


28 posted on 02/15/2006 11:14:28 AM PST by Sax
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To: NormsRevenge; Sax

A PGM that would fit in a 2.75 FFAR tube is something that would be EXTREMELY useful, especially in the high-hot environmtnt where weapons loads are restricted (I won't say HOW restricted, but even an Apache can't bring everything but the kitchen sink, and a Cobra is tantamount to useless.

Even though they conceived this for copters, it would be a nice option for the Harrier too, which is so limited in load we preferred Euro F-16s (even though the Marine pilots were really good).

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


29 posted on 02/15/2006 11:25:12 AM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: NormsRevenge

"This long series of successful tests has validated key design and performance discriminators, demonstrating the unequalled maturity and lowest risk of our solution"

God, I hate PR writing.


30 posted on 02/15/2006 11:27:15 AM PST by MajorityOfOne
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To: Boundless

I'll be impressed when they build a smart/LASER guided BB


31 posted on 02/15/2006 11:31:17 AM PST by lmailbvmbipfwedu
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To: Sax

Sweet.
The US Army experimented with them on HMMWV's with removable pedestals. They could be removed and set on the ground.

With the milimeter wave Hellfire (for use on the Longbow Apache), that missile is making a mark.


32 posted on 02/15/2006 11:36:16 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Sax

Yeah...pack the snout with willy pete and you can get 'fries'
with that..


33 posted on 02/15/2006 11:37:46 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister..but we knew just what to do...we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: Criminal Number 18F

I wonder if they can be carried by the existing 19 & 38 tube launchers, or if they need their own specialized launchers? It does seem pretty darn useful to have the ability to fire steerable rockets so you don't have to present yourself directly in front of a target and can instead engage from an indirect angle. Also seems like you could get you salvos off a lot quicker this way too.


34 posted on 02/15/2006 11:44:29 AM PST by Sax
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To: joesnuffy

Ha! Remember a few months back when some ingnoramous fish wrap reporter was trying to say that using WP was the same as engaging in all-out chemical warfare - caught like wildfire (especially in Europe) but burned out quickly.


35 posted on 02/15/2006 11:49:02 AM PST by Sax
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To: Junior
HELLFIRE® Junior could be your creationist Doppelgänger.
36 posted on 02/15/2006 11:56:55 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Sax

Brilliant ... I will see what I can do.


37 posted on 02/15/2006 12:24:18 PM PST by dartuser (My sincere prayer for terrorists everywhere ... may they rest in pieces.)
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To: Sax

"Their major sub-contractor is Boeing North American based in Duluth, Georgia who supply the missile bus and launcher electronics assembly."

On paper, yes. In reality it was a modified US version of the Hellfire, mostly done by Boeing.

BTW, the Boeing plant in Duluth, GA, was closed down and moved to St. Louis in 2000.


38 posted on 02/15/2006 12:54:57 PM PST by webstersII
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To: NormsRevenge
I'm just thinking that the Apache could carry 76 of these puppies instead of a 16 Hellfire loadout.

That's some serious pinpoint killing power.

39 posted on 02/15/2006 2:18:04 PM PST by Centurion2000 ("If you're going to shoot somebody, Shoot! Don't talk!")
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