[Nathan Zachary]

" They can...applying scientific methodology. This is different than faith-based belief." Evolution is faith based belief. Why don't you do as do Id'ers do, and apply scientific methodology to it? I guess you just don't get it. This is what Evo's are trying to prevent!!!! ID does NOT rely of faith, it begins with a young earth theory,(which you interpret as God) and uses the same science evo's try use to prove what we (and they) observe. It scares evo's that this SAME SCIENCE fits the young earth theory better. Argue anything, and if you can keep on subject without resorting to insults I can show how SCIENCE gives proof of a young earth. You can leave your fears of God completely out of it.

[NapkinUser]

Is there a reason to argue with someone who posts FSM material?

[Zeroisanumber]

If you're interested in discussing the age of the Earth with a scientist, then you should ping coyoteman.

[peyton randolph]

Why don't you do as do Id'ers do, and apply scientific methodology to it?

I've yet to see scientific methods used to support ID. All arguments ultimately boil down to a creationist view based entirely on faith. Anything inconvenient with creationism is discarded. The best indictment of ID was the recent Dover decision. As noted by the judge, creationists were saying one thing to the press and saying the exact opposite under oath in the courtroom. Trying to back-door Christianity into science class through perjury is just plain wrong.

[moatilliatta]

ID does NOT rely of faith, it begins with a young earth theory,(which you interpret as God) and uses the same science evo's try use to prove what we (and they) observe. It scares evo's that this SAME SCIENCE fits the young earth theory better.

You're wrong. In the Dover hearings Michael Behe explictly acknowledged that the Earth was old and that ID doesn't dispute that fact. ID is not Young Earth Creatonism, however much a lot of biblical literalists want it to be.

[Oztrich Boy]

ID does NOT rely of faith, it begins with a young earth theory

Let's see you name one supporter of ID from a scientific position who endoses a Young Earth

[Dimensio]

ID does NOT rely of faith, it begins with a young earth theory,(which you interpret as God) and uses the same science evo's try use to prove what we (and they) observe. It scares evo's that this SAME SCIENCE fits the young earth theory better.

I find it amusing that so many who claim to support ID not only demonstrate that they have no understanding of evolution, but they don't even have an understanding of ID! They claim that ID is backed by well-researched science, but how can their claim be trusted when they don't even realise that ID does not claim a young age for the earth?