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European Faces Reflect Stone Age Ancestry, Study Says
National Geographic ^ | 12-20-2005 | James Owens

Posted on 02/14/2006 3:31:25 PM PST by blam

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To: blam
Reflects Stone Age Ancestry my a$$!
21 posted on 02/14/2006 4:05:11 PM PST by Bender2 (Redid my FR Homepage just for ya'll... Now, Vote Republican and vote often!)
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To: opinionator

Yep, that's a French restaurant alright...


22 posted on 02/14/2006 4:05:51 PM PST by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: opinionator

23 posted on 02/14/2006 4:06:13 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: dropandgimme20; patton
Redheads 'Are Neanderthals
24 posted on 02/14/2006 4:09:51 PM PST by blam
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To: dropandgimme20
They're not actually talking about Neanderthals. They're talking about early Cro Magnon (Homo sapiens) in Europe vs later immigrant populations from the Near East.
25 posted on 02/14/2006 4:13:28 PM PST by ER Doc
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To: blam

Thanks - saved me from hunting for it. ;)


26 posted on 02/14/2006 4:16:20 PM PST by patton (Just because you don't understand it, does not mean that it does not exist.)
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To: Vaquero

In many cases there are vast differences between what people "like to think" and reality.

No evidence of neanderthal ancestry for modern humans, though it's clear there's a fringe obsessed with this idea.


27 posted on 02/14/2006 4:17:26 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: blam

You sapiens are good at this fore brain stuff. LOL.


28 posted on 02/14/2006 4:19:40 PM PST by patton (Just because you don't understand it, does not mean that it does not exist.)
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To: Strategerist
"...though it's clear there's a fringe obsessed with this idea."

Hey. Play nice. (I'm part of that fringe)

29 posted on 02/14/2006 4:20:11 PM PST by blam
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To: patton
red hair is a Neanderthal gene.

I'll need research, supporting articles, and a sample of the hair.

30 posted on 02/14/2006 4:25:12 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I'm not a curmudgeon!!!! I've just been in a bad mood since '73)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Follow the thread - everything except the hair sample is there. ;)


31 posted on 02/14/2006 4:27:03 PM PST by patton (Just because you don't understand it, does not mean that it does not exist.)
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To: blam

WILMAAAA!


32 posted on 02/14/2006 4:41:32 PM PST by spanalot
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To: Vaquero; Junior
Thanks for the ping, but we try not to bring the evolution wars into blam's threads, so I won't deploy the ping list.
33 posted on 02/14/2006 5:08:42 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: sgtbono2002
Somebody post a picture of Mike Tyson heck here is one of my favorite catchers, Joe Girardi. Check out those brow ridges. He's one of my Neanderthal brethren
34 posted on 02/14/2006 6:22:28 PM PST by Vaquero (time again for the Crusades.)
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"Quick, someone stop him before he posts that again!" "Too late, he's already opening the file. Blast!" "Cut him off at the server, something. Do something or we'll have to read that again..."
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

35 posted on 02/14/2006 9:47:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Islam is medieval fascism, and the Koran is a medieval Mein Kampf.)
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36 posted on 02/14/2006 9:47:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Islam is medieval fascism, and the Koran is a medieval Mein Kampf.)
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To: patton; dropandgimme20; 19th LA Inf
Blam posted the link, but here's a healthy excerpt:
Redheads 'are neanderthal'
by a correspondent
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RED hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals, scientists believe.

Researchers at the John Radcliffe Institute of Molecular Medicine in Oxford say that the so-called “ginger gene” which gives people red hair, fair skin and freckles could be up to 100,000 years old.

They claim that their discovery points to the gene having originated in Neanderthal man who lived in Europe for 200,000 years before Homo sapien settlers, the ancestors of modern man, arrived from Africa about 40,000 years ago.

Rosalind Harding, the research team leader, said: “The gene is certainly older than 50,000 years and it could be as old as 100,000 years.

“An explanation is that it comes from Neanderthals.” It is estimated that at least 10 per cent of Scots have red hair and a further 40 per cent carry the gene responsible, which could account for their once fearsome reputation as fighters.

Neanderthals have been characterised as migrant hunters and violent cannibals who probably ate most of their meat raw. They were taller and stockier than Homo sapiens, but with shorter limbs, bigger faces and noses, receding chins and low foreheads.

The two species overlapped for a period of time and the Oxford research appears to suggests that they must have successfully interbred for the “ginger gene” to survive. Neanderthals became extinct about 28,000 years ago, the last dying out in southern Spain and southwest France.
Quite a list of negative traits -- Neandertals were cannibals; they ate raw meat; they were violent; and of course, it's implied that they were small-brained. Elsewhere some vegetarians wrote that Neandertal ate too much meat and went extinct, while others said that our ancestors learned to eat fish, which is brain food (I'm not makin' that up). The (fortunately) late Allan Wilson of the mtDNA crowd produced the claim the Neandertal was "the village idiot" who couldn't talk because of his/her mtDNA, and therefore went extinct. In the Encyclopedia Brittanica (in the early 1970s, perhaps later) Celts are described as a group that spent all its time drinking mead and were "incapable of concerted action." My leftist sister (a professor) said the Irish had perfected just one thing -- public drunkeness. Y'know, I'm beginning to think there's a real attitude problem among academics. ;')
37 posted on 02/14/2006 9:56:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Islam is medieval fascism, and the Koran is a medieval Mein Kampf.)
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To: SunkenCiv

so do i have to ask a dentist to find out if i am neandertal, or is my red hair proof enough?


38 posted on 02/14/2006 10:36:14 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: SunkenCiv

uh-oh .. i had a bloody rare rib steak for dinner tonight. No, not on a date - it was something I cooked myself after an 11 hour workday. Just another Tuesday......


39 posted on 02/14/2006 10:40:34 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
so do i have to ask a dentist to find out if i am neandertal, or is my red hair proof enough?
Dentists are about as much fun as a sock in the jaw.
it was something I cooked myself after an 11 hour workday.
I hope eating rare steaks is a rarity. :')
40 posted on 02/14/2006 10:58:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Islam is medieval fascism, and the Koran is a medieval Mein Kampf.)
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