Posted on 02/14/2006 12:24:05 AM PST by Turbopilot
>>> company my biometeric data like finger prints or retina scan data. The latter could be hacked out of their systems <<<<
You will have and get both!
The data needs to be stored in more places that a "chip" to be usefull
First, understand that I am a believer and active leader in my church-- it is sad to say that you are right about the first part, but not the second. Even the most faithful will crumble when they have to give up their lives and the lifestyle and possibly lives of their families. As soon as it becomes required to buy or sell or be hired or enroll your children in school or get health care, the only ones who will resist are the same miniscule percentage of Americans who are actually willing to sacrifice their lives for liberty. Some of these are Christians, some are not... I am a careful observer of human behavior and just watching what has been accepted already in the name of security and safety leaves no question in my mind.
16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.18This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.Any lacking the insight to see the number will still have the clue that "no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark."Revelations 13:16-17.
Why do you say only the right hand? Revelations admonishes us not to receive it on either hand,
"...the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
Thats a good & bad example.
Bad in that the FM radios made by Armstrong were not obsolete. Just made to operate at the wrong freq. With a simple change to the front end would work just fine.
Good in. The whole thing was a political move by David Sarnoff of RCA, To push and keep out Armstrong, his friend and the inventor of FM out of the market.
And lets not forget CBS Color too.
Try getting a PPV out of Dish Network without 2 way com. See how far you get.
But leaving that out. Lets try one example. Theres more.
When you go to a movie with others. Can you buy just one ticket and all get in?
Well why should be able to do the same thing at home?
Once YOU all have your tags in ya. Now your TV can intaragat the room to see whos in viewing range ( and earshot (is a blinded person charged to get into the movies)) And the appropriate viewing credits deducted from your account.
The viewing credits are downloaded to your TV from the station after you send payment.
Can you see the Its for the children" push.
Add in recording now...
Yes but if you check the previous verses it specified the RIGHT hand or fore-head so the verses you cited were in the plural tenses of the same. A left fore-arm is not the same as a hand.
Also my posting was some-what tongue in cheek as the the idea of any kind of "chipping" is simply repulsive to me.
I mean how can the populace control who controls the technology with such a system in place. Even if the "beast" is not involved at first, just the notion of being electronically branded is simply vile to me.
Also I suspect the mark is a visible one not just an invisibly inserted ID chip. The Bible speaks of the vanity of this son of perdition and an invisible marking chip would simply just not be enough! To take such a mark is to declare one's allegiance to the Devil for such a declaration would sear one's conscience and danm one's soul for-ever.
Context is important. There is a difference when a representative form of government elects to legislate a chipping ID system that marks citizen from foreigner as opposed to a DEVIL incarnated Dictator declaring that all must tke his "mark" in fealty and allegiance to himself and his established order or have their head chopped off. Yet such a system of control may prove to tempting for even a representative government who could roll back our liberties with such a system. Thusly such a system must be absolutely nipped in the bud before it even got the initial supportive legislation.
So when do the first anti chipping protests start and who is going to organize them?...I'm not hearing a peep out of the anarchist anti-globalist types who should absolutely protest this type of monstrosity!
Don't tell any muzzie's but with our muzzie catch and release program, they're being tagged, too. Don't tell 'em, though.
Which verse? I can't find it.
YOU posted it in post 24:
"16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his RIGHT(emphasis mine) hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.18This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.
Revelations 13:16-17."
The mark is to be the "Beast's name or his number"...not a personalized ID number assigned to you. It will be the name and number of the Son of Perdition himself. That is why I'm saying that a system of implanted ID numbers that ID's you to the government, is not quite the same as a tatto or mark that Identifies you as Identifying with Satan himself!
Now could such a system be suborned by the Beast himself when he takes control of the whole Earth?....certainly so! But adherents to the Beast get a much more tangible mark or device that names the bearer as a worshipper of the Beast himself!
But you have no arguement from me that even a simple system of chip ID with our SS numbers in them is a great danger to our liberty. To be chipped like an animal is repulsive to me!
As soon as it becomes required to buy or sell or be hired or enroll your children in school or get health care, the only ones who will resist are the same miniscule percentage of Americans who are actually willing to sacrifice
Revelations talks about multitudes under the throne of God who are slain for refusing to take the beast's name or worship his image...while you can't say a vast majority will resist on the Earth, more folk than you would ever believe will refuse to take the Mark or worship the Beast's image!
You are right. I must have been seeing things (or rather not seeing things...) :-)
Well, the thing is this chipping technology certainly points the way forward to a time when a overt ID system and branding mark will be used to control all economic life on the planet to co-erce all living souls to be bound to the world's governing systems.
Perhaps by judicious voting and mass protests we can stall the implimentation of such a system in our country for another generation or two. But the end is coming, and Christ will reign on the Earth;God having put all kingdoms under Christ's feet!
My dogs have them.....
Ping and placemarker.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1565481/posts
USDA steps up efforts to track livestock
http://nationalpropertyowners.org
National Property Owners
Full research sections on National Animal Identification System (NAIS)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1563271/posts
Healthy People 2010
Information on where the funding came from for NAIS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1561077/posts
Animal Tagging and SCHOOL LUNCHES???
Information on some of the partners on these posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1564815/posts
Digital Angel and Microchip
Info on the technology that will be used for the tagging
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I personally believe that the Mark of the Beast will involve both chipping and tattooing. However, I believe it will be imposed as a "rationing" and "registration issue" following the nuclear exchanges I believe are indicated in Revelations 6 and 7.
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