[Tokra]

Variation within it's kind does not mean evolution. A Doberman and Pekingese are still dogs. A Shetland and a Clydesdale are still horses.A short person and tall person are still humans.

And a hummingbird and a condor are both birds - but can they mate with each other and produce offspring?

[Creationist]

Websters, Second College Edition, New World Dictionary of the American Language ----kind---- 1. [Archaic] (a) origin (b) nature (c) manner; way 2. a natural group or division (the rodent kind) sometimes used in compounds (human-kind) 3.essential character 4. sort; variety: class

They are a variety of the bird kind. It does not mean that all bird are interfertile. I am not saying that. My argument is that kind is a definitive word of the variations of the diferent classes of animals. You do not have to use the word species to define a variety class or sort.

Daddy long legs can not breed with a Black widow does that mean by your reasoning that they are not of the arachnoid kind.