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To: VadeRetro

Thanks for admitting in a roundabout way that it wasn't me who raised a thermodynamic problem with evolution. Maybe it was roundabout enough that no one will pay much attention to your mistake.

I wasn't dismissing the post in question. I merely asked the poster's opinion. He's still welcome to answer if he wishes, and I won't bite his head off for responding.

He described how the universe will wind down and stated that there will be no one to wind it back up again. I merely asked who wound it up in the first place, hoping to find out his opinion. I wasn't begging the question, as it's an unanswerable question. But it's not a question upon which we can't have an opinion. I was simply hoping to hear his since he seemed to have a good grasp of the subject, and seemed able to discuss things without getting angry at people who might disagree with him.


194 posted on 02/14/2006 7:55:35 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: puroresu
Thanks for admitting in a roundabout way that it wasn't me who raised a thermodynamic problem with evolution. Maybe it was roundabout enough that no one will pay much attention to your mistake.

It was a creationist who raised it and your dismissal of the mainstream response was incorrect. There was nothing wrong with saying "Earth will cool off (after an initial baking, but that is another story), things will run down, and there will be nobody to 'wind things back up'".

Again, you are "winding down" (getting old) but no one needed to wind you up (youthen) you. Your object is just a facetious wave-away to distract from another creationist getting his head handed to him for showing up dumb as a stump with the same old invalid talking points.

I wasn't begging the question, as it's an unanswerable question.

You asked "Who?" If it's a "who," it has to be somebody's invisible friend. I picked "Cthulhu," but I'm not wedded to the hypothesis. You see, asking "Who?" is begging the real question. The real question is whether ANYBODY's invisible and omnipotent but otherwise anthropomorphic buddy exists at all and had ANYTHING to do with the whatever the beginnings of the universe were.

195 posted on 02/14/2006 8:20:43 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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