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To: puroresu

micro means "tiny"
microbe means "tiny living thing"

differentiating between an adjective and a noun is not nitpicking, especially when endeavoring to get someone to define what he means when he uses a pseudo-scientific term developed by anti-evolutionists for the sole purpose of obfuscation. ESPECIALLY when he seems to have created out of whole cloth a novel meaning of that nonsensical term.

look at my tagline.
believe it.

now - you have qualms about both microbe-to-man and microbe-to-chimp evolution. very good. I will now assume that you have a similar qualm with the idea that ANY vertebrate mammal arose from distant microbial ancestors. indeed, I shall presume to extend this to ANY complex multi-tissue organism.

I am correct in this, yes? This does hew to what you believe, yes?

Assuming so, and abandoning it for a moment, do you have a qualm with the idea that homo sapiens (us) and pan troglodytes (chimps) derive from a common ancestor, and that the mechanics of the speciation from that common ancestral stock was genetic mutation and various forms of selective processes?


141 posted on 02/13/2006 9:11:55 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: King Prout

####micro means "tiny"
microbe means "tiny living thing"####

I think we're all aware of that.

What I'm waiting for from you is a revelation. You've built yourself up as possessing great knowledge of this subject. So much so, that I'm expecting phenomenal things from you. So, drop all the cuteness and pettiness and hit me with what you've got. Demonstrate to me that we're descended from micro-organisms beyond any reasonable doubt. For that matter, demonstrate to me that humans and chimps are descended from a common ancestor beyond a reasonable doubt. If you can do that, demonstrate that God had nothing to do with it.

Remember, I'm not just asking for evidence. I admit there is such evidence. I've never ruled it out as a possibility that we are indeed descended from micro-organisms. If you do nothing but provide me with evidence I'll be forced to consider you a failure since there are alternative explanations for that evidence (e.g., God's design and creation).

Don't forget, I stated at the outset that it's possible that we are indeed the descendents of micro-organisms, but I have doubts. So do others, which is why we object to banning any other possibility from being discussed in the public schools. You jumped in AFTER I had so asserted, as if you had the capacity to take things one step further and clear up those doubts. So go ahead.

Show me why I should totally abandon my doubts and agree with you that micro-to-man evolution is a fact and it's settled for now and all eternity. And while you're at it, demonstrate that God had nothing to do with it.

Honestly, I respect you and your opinion, but you're really off on a tangent here.


146 posted on 02/13/2006 9:32:11 PM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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