Hollywood 'resists gay US actors'

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[HamiltonJay]

Funny... I don't recall the actress who played "Marcy Darcy" on married with Children being shunned because she was Gay... or Ellen Degenerus or Rosie O'Donnel or Andy Dick or Nathan Lane or.......

[Larry Lucido]

but imagine if Steven Segal was gay

Or an overweight wife-beater who can't act. Oh, wait......

[Richard Kimball]

Guys, check each others posts at 119 & 120. Characters are constantly rewritten to advance ideas. The Arthur legends were probably originally pagan, rewritten to be Christian, and are now being paganized again. Similarly, although on a less significant scale, the comic hero in the United States has gone from (during WWII) a foe of the Axis, to during the cold war, a foe of the Communists, to the kind of nihilistic anti-hero of the moment, ala the Watchmen. While the underlying themes may have been there, it is their emphasis and direction I was considering. The early Xmen were primarily heros who, like Spider-man had a background plot of being misunderstood. The entire focus of the Xmen movies was their persecution.

[agere_contra]

Marvel mutants have been a fairly obvious metaphor for black/Jewish/gay/whatever for forty years.

I think that you may be reading this in. I can believe that teenage frustrations coupled with a yearning to have superpowers powered the phenomenal success of the comics. Readers identified with the mutants/other superheroes because they liked adventure, conflict and coool superpowers. And trucks exploding. But the Hulk, the Fantastic 4, the X Men - these franchises didn't sell millions of copies because they were obvious metaphors for society's underclass du jour.

[jw777]

I think he meant, it's hard if your Straight. LOL. It makes no sense, what he has said. Hollywood embraces gays like they are Gods.

[DirtyHarryY2K]

Oklahomo!

LMAO!

[fishbabe]

I agree with you...One of my fave movies!!!!!!
Loved the music in it,too.Especially in the jail cell.

[Starter]

He's not reading it in. The X-Men comic have been rather explicit about the "anti-mutantism = racism" bit for at least 25 years now. Just as a minor example, the graphic novel that the second film was based on dates from 1982.

[jordan8]

Every time you see an old Rock Hudson film you just can't forget that he's gay, particularly if it's a romance. It shatters the spell of the story.

[3AngelaD]

Wasn't it Edward II?

[bruin66]

Nathan Lane is as queer as a nine-bob note, and open about it too.

He was terrific in The Birdcage, 'specially when he was trying to do John Wayne.

[BurbankKarl]

You forgot Tom Cruise.

[durasell]

The original is also good. You have to take both of them on their own merits.

[beckett]

There were rumours about him [Errol Flynn] and some other actor of that time when they were roomates........

I think you're confusing Errol Flynn with Cary Grant. Flynn was a notorious lothario who nailed anything in a skirt in Hollywood, the younger the better, and a notorious drunk as well whose drinking so bloated his once handsome face that it shortened his career by decades.

Grant roomed with Randall Scott when they first came to Hollywood, and then again later after they'd both had success and Grant had left his first wife, and it was rumored they were homosexual, but the rumor has been investigated by several biographers (according to an A&E biography I saw) and the consensus among them is that it's a dubious charge at best, certainly unprovable. Grant's wives, even the two who are still living, never complained that he was gay.

[metesky]

Not mine. I stole it from Mark Steyn who stole it from Nathan Lane, who apparently has a sense of humor.

[steve-b]

Wasn't it Edward II?

Edward II's last words: "I always said Roger Mortimer was a pain in the--."

[driftless]

"if Steven Seagal was gay"

You hit the nail on the head. Call me homophobic, but only a tiny percentage of American males want to see men engage in homosexual activities on-screen. The film industry isn't anti-gay, the viewing audience, like myself (unapologetically), is.

[Rummyfan]

I have to say, Under Siege 2: Dark Territory was one of the most meaningful cinematic works I have ever seen. I laughed, I cried, the pathos was overwhelming. When Seagal turns to the camera and says, "You think this is being shot? This ain't being shot," it was quite possibly the greatest movie moment since Citizen Kaine.

Well I for one thought UNDER SIEGE 2 paled in comparison to the original. I mean, any film that has Erika Eleniak emerge from a cake topless has to make any reviewer's Top Ten automatically (well, maybe not Ebert's! ((gay)) ). Of course the height of the Seagal films, to date anyway, was MARKED FOR DEATH. Steven's performance was extremely nuanced and subtle there!

[Rummyfan]

Don't really know about Foster. But she has never revealed the father of her children - personally, I think she opted for the turkey baster method.

[Rummyfan]

Cary Grant and Randolph Scott were roomies before either really hit it big in Hollywood and were rumored to be fegalahs.