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The Trial of Ernest Zundel
Arutz Sheva ^ | 2-13-06 | Dr. Alex Grobman

Posted on 02/13/2006 5:16:27 AM PST by SJackson

The trial of Holocaust denier Ernest Zundel in the Mannheim state court on charges of libel, incitement and disparaging the dead provides us with another opportunity to examine who the deniers are, their goals and how we should respond to them. Coming after Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's recent statement on Iranian national TV that leaders in the West "have invented a myth that Jews were massacred and place this above God, religions and the prophets," this is especially important.

Zundel, who failed to obtain Canadian citizenship, was deported from Canada last year to his native Germany. He immigrated to Canada in the late 1970s, where he owned and operated a graphic arts company for a number of years. He established Samisdat Publishers that printed and distributed Holocaust denial and neo-Nazi books and articles; Power, his radio programs; "Another Voice of Freedom" his cable-TV shows; and his Internet site, Zundelsite, where he exposed what he called the "Holocaust Hoax". Until 2001, he lived in Montreal and Toronto.

Dr. Michael Shermer and I visited Ernest Zundel at his home in Toronto while doing research on our book Denying History: Who Says The Holocaust Never Happened And Why Do They Say It?. When I asked Zundel if he was serious about what he had written in his book UFOs: Nazi Secret Weapons?, he laughed. The book claimed that flying saucers from outer space are really Nazi secret weapons.

He wrote the book, he said, to generate media interest in the myth of the Holocaust and the gullible press beat a path to his door. When I asked Zundel how we could believe he was genuinely serious about Holocaust denial, his demeanor changed completely. His mission in life, he proclaimed, is to defend the honor of Germany and its people, who have been maliciously maligned by this despicable lie. If the Jews did not cease spreading these fabrications, he warned, there would be severe consequences for them. He wanted an ongoing dialogue with me on how we might prevent such a disaster, but our long distance phone conversations were not productive.

What became clear from these encounters, and with David Irving, another Holocaust denier, is that there is a core of true believers who will never be convinced that the Holocaust happened. Whether we should respond to these charges or ignore them has been an issue within the Jewish community for some time.

Michael and I decided to meet with the deniers privately, at their conferences, on the phone and by email to learn first hand what they had to say. It seemed incongruous that Jews were meeting with Yasser Arafat and others who either engaged in murdering Israelis or ordering their deaths, but Holocaust deniers were off limits. Confronting the lies of Holocaust deniers in public is imperative. Otherwise, people might assume we have no answers.

Holocaust deniers also pose a physical threat to Jews, because they want to rehabilitate anti-Semitism and make it more respectable in "civilized discourse", Pierre Vidal-Naquet reminds us. They want anti-Semitism to be used as an acceptable policy of governments. What better way to do so, then by proving that the Holocaust never occurred?

Holocaust denial must also be seen as a danger to the free world and to our way of life. The goal is to make National Socialism and Fascism legitimate alternatives to democracy. Holocaust deniers believe that both are the wave of the future. If the Holocaust is a myth, then these non-democratic forms of government are no longer tainted with the systematic mass murder of six million Jews.

The deniers have convinced the media that this is a free speech issue, which it is not. Deniers should be allowed to speak and publish their works; but we have no moral or legal obligation to publish them or to help them promote their lies.

Finally, Arab Holocaust denial raises the bar to a new level. Arabs deny the Holocaust, or at least its severity; vilify Zionist leaders for allegedly collaborating with the Nazis and becoming their heirs, and claim the Jews are responsible for precipitating whatever happened. They try to prove that Jews have no historical connection to the land and thus no legitimate right to any part of Israel. And if there was no Holocaust, then Jews are also not victims. Only the Arabs are.

Holocaust denial is a form of pseudo-history. We need to understand how the deniers cleverly manipulate and distort the facts. Holocaust denial is an insult against history and how we practice the science of history.

To deny the Holocaust is also shocking because it attempts to deny our search to find out why it happened. For this reason, we note that Holocaust denial is dangerous and despicable - it is an attempt not just to deny a true past, but also to deny a meaningful one.

Dr. Alex Grobman served as director of the Simon Wiesenthal Center during its formative years. He has an MA and Ph.D. in Contemporary Jewish History from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and is the co-author of Denying History: Who Says The Holocaust Never Happened And Why Do They Say It? (University of California Press, 2000).


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: canada; ernestzundel; germany; holocaust; holocaustdenial; holocaustdenier; michaelshermer; nazi; neonazi; simonwiesenthal

1 posted on 02/13/2006 5:16:29 AM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 02/13/2006 5:39:58 AM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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To: SJackson

As much as I despise this man, I am not in favor of supression of free speech. I like the route the US has taken -- you can pursue these people if they libel but not for their denial.

Supression just makes them a cause and gives them added exposure. Also it is better to have their views out in the open.


3 posted on 02/13/2006 9:52:16 AM PST by dervish (Muslims are genetically predisposed to cartoon rage)
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To: SJackson

bump


4 posted on 02/13/2006 10:06:36 AM PST by VOA
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To: SJackson
Confronting the lies of Holocaust deniers in public is imperative.
Otherwise, people might assume we have no answers.


Needed emphasis.
After seeing one PBS "Frontline" segment about a Jewish fellow
visiting Germany in regards to the Holocaust memorial to be built in
Berlin...
well, the interaction he had with some high-school students showed
how short the memory of a nation can be.
(This I concluded when one chirpy little German girl said that
the USA was evil because the USA does what the Nazis once did.)
5 posted on 02/13/2006 10:26:35 AM PST by VOA
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To: SJackson

Zundel is also responsible for Hamas going after the Lions, Rotary Club
and Masons in their charter:

http://radar.smh.com.au/archives/2005/09/hamas_vs_the_li.html

The first time someone told me that Hamas was at war with the Rotary Club,
I laughed out loud.
When I found out it was true, I didn't just think Hamas was a criminally
insane enterprise...I knew it was true.


6 posted on 02/13/2006 10:38:50 AM PST by VOA
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To: SJackson
Anyone mind if I plug this book again?


7 posted on 02/13/2006 10:40:54 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski

"Anyone mind if I plug this book again?"

Not me. In fact I'll see your plug and raise you this one about a
"real time denial" by the newspaper of record:

Buried by the Times : The Holocaust and America's Most Important Newspaper (Hardcover)
by Laurel Leff

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0521812879/qid=1139856723/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/103-5196030-3329452?s=books&v=glance&n=283155


8 posted on 02/13/2006 10:55:05 AM PST by VOA
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To: VOA

9 posted on 02/13/2006 11:04:05 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: SJackson

The enemy associates the USA with Israel and has for decades, although he wants to rule the world through fascism. Holocaust denial is a tool of the enemy.


10 posted on 02/13/2006 1:12:46 PM PST by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: dervish

Agreed -- note how the Islamonuts (including the current one running Iran) keep flogging European nations with their own antispeech laws against "Holocaust deniers" as a tool to supress the Mohammad cartoons.


11 posted on 02/13/2006 1:15:57 PM PST by MajorityOfOne
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