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Senator changes mind on Schiavo [Martinez - FL]
The St. Petersburg Times ^ | 2/12/06 | ADAM C. SMITH

Posted on 02/12/2006 6:25:57 AM PST by doc30

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Any comments on the Junior Senator from FL? Don't mean to open the Schaivo story, but Martinez working with Nelson on the oil drilling ban really bothers me. Seems Martinez may be a new member of the RINO club. Please tell me I'm wrong on that.
1 posted on 02/12/2006 6:25:58 AM PST by doc30
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Florida Repubicans could have done MUCH better than Mel Martinez for senator. He and Nelson are two peas in a pod.


2 posted on 02/12/2006 6:27:50 AM PST by kittymyrib
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You just HAD to post this, didn't you? :)


3 posted on 02/12/2006 6:30:27 AM PST by bonfire
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comments? sure. let us murder you, so then we can apologize to your corpse. what a clown this rino is.


4 posted on 02/12/2006 6:32:31 AM PST by son of caesar
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Martinez working with Nelson on the oil drilling ban really bothers me. Seems Martinez may be a new member of the RINO club. Please tell me I'm wrong on that.

He's caught my attention also, not in a good way...


5 posted on 02/12/2006 6:34:54 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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Must be worried about re-election. That's one of the best indicators when they flip flop. They are in it for their own benefit, no one elses......ever.


6 posted on 02/12/2006 6:35:53 AM PST by b4its2late (Terrorists will either succeed in changing our way of life, or we will change theirs. - Rummy)
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I have little to say about Señor Senator Martinez other than he must have a terrible staff, as the delay from writing him and the eventual standard reply, is long in coming.

It would appear that he is on schedule to be a one term senator.





7 posted on 02/12/2006 6:36:23 AM PST by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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He is on course to be a one-term Senator in large part because people in Florida were furious that he believed the federal government should be making life-and-death decisions for individuals rather than their families.

Man, you "conservatives" sure have made your peace with exercising unlimited governmental power, eh? You know what they say about power. And there's no better proof than to look at the Republican party of 1984 or 1994 and the cesspool it is today.

8 posted on 02/12/2006 6:50:14 AM PST by Jonathon Spectre (Nazis believed they were doing good.)
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Why is it so awful to have the federal government intervention in family matters and not the state government, and a state official so compromised by his relationship with the attorney on one side of the case? So many people focused so much on the principle of states rights and so little on the principle of judicial impartiality in matters of life and death. No point, of course, in revisiting the matter, It was well established that the principle of utility dominates the conservative movement. Unless the person is useful, he is worthless.


9 posted on 02/12/2006 7:00:56 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Jonathon Spectre

civil rights are a federal issue.


10 posted on 02/12/2006 7:13:34 AM PST by conservative physics
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This is probably the only matter in history which the liberals think should have been decided by the states...


11 posted on 02/12/2006 7:24:00 AM PST by SeƱor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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Martinez said supporters of the bill wanted "one last measure of review. That's what the debate was about in the Senate. If I had to take one lesson away it's perhaps decisions of this nature really belong in state courts, not federal courts."

Condemned prisoners get federal judicial review on top of their state review. The governor of the state also has the power to grant clemency.

This is all that was asked when a person's blood relatives disagree with the spouse's decision to end a life. We're going to err on the side of keeping people alive when the correct course is uncertain.

Not exactly an earth shattering concept. But apparently beyond the intellectual capacity of Sen. Martinez.

12 posted on 02/12/2006 8:30:40 AM PST by BigBobber
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-The effort to keep her alive proved unsuccessful and enormously unpopular with the public.-

That should be "unpopular with the uninformed public", and they were uninformed because the media misinformed them with the use of the term "vegetable".


13 posted on 02/12/2006 8:42:52 AM PST by AmericanChef
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Mel Martinez had the support of the Bushes and they are good at political game playing.

It's a complex puzzle. The Bushes fraternize with the Clintons and it's one big happy oligarchy.

14 posted on 02/12/2006 9:20:10 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org)
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The propaganda by the mainstream media contributed to her death. Hard to believe how many people were brainwashed but I recall that there was a FR survey in which 87 - 89% of freepers voted that Terri should get to live. Why don't freepers recall that poll?

They shouldn't be writing about Terri any more. So many more people are being killed the same way without the headlines. She had no directives. She was murdered.

15 posted on 02/12/2006 9:23:11 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org)
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Exactly. And an incredible amount of misinformation has been spread about this case.

The fact is that Terri never indicated she wanted to die, much less be dehydrated. She never had a lawyer, and Greer denied her due process while catering to Michael Schiavo. The sadistic students Michael pulled on her and her family is too long to list.

16 posted on 02/12/2006 9:43:24 AM PST by Dante3
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sarcasm....


19 posted on 02/12/2006 9:55:34 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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Sorry ... thanks to teh quick moderators my most intemparate post was pulled.


20 posted on 02/12/2006 9:57:27 AM PST by bvw
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