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Tonight on 20/20: John Stossel Explodes Myths
ABC News ^ | 2/10/2006

Posted on 02/10/2006 7:45:18 PM PST by logician2u

John Stossel's "Myths, Lies and Nasty Behavior"

Think Gas Is More Expensive, Urban Sprawl Is Bad? Think Again

Do you think farmers need more government assistance? Do you think gasoline is more expensive than ever? John Stossel may make you reconsider. (ABC)

Here's my latest list of things you may have been led to believe are true ? but aren't. I'm also including some nasty behaviors that are more than just annoying, they cost us all money.

I hope this will give you a different perspective about your money, your neighbors and your politicians.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abcnews; johnstossel; myths; stossel; urbansprawl
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To: calcowgirl
Happy viewing!

(Hope you like the outsourcing segment, #4, about 10:35 PST.)

61 posted on 02/10/2006 10:22:47 PM PST by logician2u
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To: logician2u

So when adjusted for inflation gasoline is slightly less expensive now than it was during it's worst crisis ever?

I'm so relieved!


62 posted on 02/10/2006 10:23:54 PM PST by voteconstitutionparty
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To: logician2u

Did I miss the sprawl segment? He's going in order of myth? (just talking about Rep. Young and his bridge).


63 posted on 02/10/2006 10:23:54 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: logician2u

But the reality is that the "record high gas prices" are a myth. The U.S. Department of Energy records show that when you adjust for inflation the price of gas is now lower than it's been for most of the twentieth century. Prices are lower now than they were 25 years ago.

REPLY:

The problem is that my income has not kept up with inflation.

Adjusting my income still doesn't make up for what I was making 25 years ago, then yes, no or maybe the prices are not to high, I guess.


64 posted on 02/10/2006 10:24:10 PM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: FreedomCalls

Thanks. I was too preoccupied watching to extract the list of topics and paste into the thread.


65 posted on 02/10/2006 10:24:38 PM PST by logician2u
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To: Emmet Fitzhume
So how exactly do we "unite" the red with the blue?

The Left accomplishes that by selling 'unity' as a higher ideal in itself.

They also do a good job of pretending that they are one of us. Years ago, the old media shielded them as democrats. Today, they manifest as RINOs.

It's working. There are many here at FR who think that a democrat from 1980 is different than a democrat from the last election. This, while Jimmy Carter continues to undermine American interests as he did while President.

In fact, democrats have not changed in 45 years. Only their exposure by the new media has caused certain impressionable liberals - ever concerned about personal image in their vanity - to jump ship and convert to neoconservatism, a weak veil for their underlying liberality.

66 posted on 02/10/2006 10:30:46 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: logician2u
The sheep still don`t understand how much the urban planning is costing Oregon, not only in $$ but life style.
The Portland area will soon be populated by old folks from California, government employees, rich property owners, and folks living off an inheritance. God help them if they run off INTEL
67 posted on 02/10/2006 10:31:01 PM PST by bybybill (If the Rats win, we are doomed)
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To: bybybill

Oregon is a beautiful state, but who in their right mind would want to live there? Or own property there?


68 posted on 02/10/2006 10:33:44 PM PST by logician2u
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To: Jibaholic
I don't know if I agree that urban sprawl being bad is a myth. It has always existed, BUT, Firstly, much of it has happened because families have been driven out of liberal-dominated cities and their stagnant economies and soft-on-crime politics. If it weren't for liberals in the cities, there would be less sprawl. ( jibaholic)

Jibaholic,

Government schools are also responsible for the stratification of American society, by race, class, economics, and education. Parents in an effort to send their children to the safest and best government schools strive to move to the most expensive neighborhoods they can afford. It is any wonder then that neighborhoods and consequently government schools are segregated by economic and social class?

Only government could devise a scheme with such fiendish consequences. There is nothing so segregated and NON-diverse as a government schools. There is nothing in the private sector that even comes close in scale and scope.

If this had occurred all at once, the American people would have been outraged. But,,,,they are like frogs in slowly heating water.

Also if there were no big yellow government school buses offering "free" transport, perhaps parents would not have so readily chosen to live in suburbia. If government schools were not guaranteed to every child in every new development, again, perhaps there would have been fewer parents choosing to live in countryside.

Government schools are responsible for more permanent loss of wildlands, fauna, and habitat that all of America's wars combined.

69 posted on 02/10/2006 10:37:10 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: durasell
NYC isn't socialist, a fact that many people don't seem to realize. NYC is probably the most capitalistic city on the face of the planet.

Was there one or two taxpayer bail-outs of NYC?

70 posted on 02/10/2006 10:44:06 PM PST by Lester Moore (I will see abortion on demand abolished, so help me Almighty God)
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To: Screamname
That over population scare tactic has been used for over a thousand years.

Did you know if you took every man, women and child on earth you could fit them all in Road Island or you can give each family on earth each 10,000 sqft of land in Texas.

The other scare tactic that is related, is about the amount of available water. Every single war in history was related to water in one way or another, water is political power that is all it is.

71 posted on 02/10/2006 10:58:37 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: Lester Moore

Why does Stossel always whack the water business for 15 years he has been taking swipes at the bottle water business. I bought a gallon of water at the supermarket for $.69 cents and I get it delivered to my house for $1.20 a gallon. I haven't seen gas prices like this for 30 years. Hey John give me a break!


72 posted on 02/10/2006 11:02:22 PM PST by Blacksheep
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To: logician2u

The soultion for Urban Sprawl

The solution to problem caused by the solution of urban sprawl.

73 posted on 02/10/2006 11:05:52 PM PST by oyez (Appeasement is insanity.)
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To: oyez
Good one!

May I use it?

74 posted on 02/10/2006 11:16:25 PM PST by logician2u
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To: Dallas59
"The Raccoons, Possums, Foxes and Coyotes..."

And I'll bet there's an ordinance against "terminating" them.

Raccoons, for one, are blessed with hand-like paws which are quite capable of lifting lids off trash containers. A human is left to clean up the mess they make.

The township will provide traps...homeowner has to catch them and take them to some park.

The squirrels chew and destroy the plastic trash conainer lids and I've even seen crows peck through plastic bags of trash, again causing a big mess.

Talk about littering!!!

75 posted on 02/10/2006 11:26:55 PM PST by IIntense
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To: William Creel

I would like at some point in my life to live right in a neighborhood where I can walk to a small church, go to a coffee shop, sit on a park bench, etc etc without having to drive anywhere.......When we were kids we stayed with my grandparents in their small apt right in the middle of Annapolis Md.....in fact, the historic State Capitol was just a football field away, if that.....we awoke to the sound of the garbage man, the produce man, the street cleaners, and the young Middies walking around....being in the country, all that activity really amazed us....


76 posted on 02/10/2006 11:39:24 PM PST by cherry
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To: trubluolyguy
"I can't pay for gas in 1980's money..."

While I agree with your gas gripe, I think today's prices would have hurt pocketbooks even more in the eighties.

A lot of us could afford a "justified" $4 a gallon if we threw out every thieving politican at the next election.

77 posted on 02/10/2006 11:43:44 PM PST by IIntense
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To: FreedomCalls
"Full list here:"

And which one annoys me the most?

All of the above. (Clearly, I'm a very laid-back being. LOL)

78 posted on 02/11/2006 12:01:15 AM PST by IIntense
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To: EricT.
..."people who use cell phones in public places are evil..."

"Not evil, just rude."

Quite rude, quite often.

Recently I worked in a 2-person branch office with a 20-something female. Her boyfriend would use his brief blue-collar lunch time driving several blocks to spend 10 minutes with her, and he'd fetch her some lunch along the way. What reward did he get for his devotion? She usually spent the whole time yakking on the phone with her GFs. I often thought the poor bugger should relax at his own workplace for the full 30 minutes and call her on the damn phone, he'd get more attention from her. I guess he was too dull-witted, or too whipped.

I also work in a band. Recently I saw (for the first time) a couple dancing away on the dance floor - and she was babbling on the phone! How rude is that? What did he get for his fond attention? I'm sure if he didn't want to dance she would consider him dull and not worthy of another date, but when he does dance, she treats him like hired help.

79 posted on 02/11/2006 12:06:27 AM PST by WireAndWood (whenever something bad becomes news, chances are it involves a fellow called "Muhammed")
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To: IIntense

A few weeks ago I saw a program about the situation of public schools in America he is soo right.
I asked my father if he saw this episode and even though he did not see this episode just blurted that its anti public education. So I asked him to retort and said well Dad? where did you send me his son to school?
I went to a prestigous Military Academy in VA. Just like his cohorts he votes for. I agree that people of lower income should be able to send their kids to private schools with vouchers.


80 posted on 02/11/2006 12:09:32 AM PST by lndrvr1972
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