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Noonan - Four Presidents and a Funeral
Opinion Jorunal ^ | Feb 10, 2006 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 02/10/2006 7:02:07 PM PST by BreitbartSentMe

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1 posted on 02/10/2006 7:02:09 PM PST by BreitbartSentMe
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To: Bush_Democrat
She said this:

A former president, a softly gray-haired and chronically dyspeptic gentleman who seems to have judged the world to be just barely deserving of his presence, pointedly insulted a sitting president who was, in fact, sitting right behind him. The Clintons unveiled their 2008 campaign. A rhyming preacher, one of the old lions, a man of warmth and stature, freely used the occasion to verbally bop the sitting president on the head.

But, apparently, she doesn't see anything wrong with it...

2 posted on 02/10/2006 7:03:59 PM PST by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
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To: Bush_Democrat

Hmmm. Thanks. I like Peggy, usually, but when she goes off the rails, she really goes off the rails.

No, it's not a celebration of American freedom to insult people at funerals. It's disrepectful of the dead, not to speak of the President.

I don't know what it is with Peggy and George W. Bush. She just doesn't seem to like him, maybe because he threatens to rival Ronald Reagan.

Nonsense. Reagan was Reagan, and will be considered a great president whatever the final judgment may be on Bush. It's really stupid to be jealous and catty. This reminds me of that truly unfortunate column about last years SOTU address.


3 posted on 02/10/2006 7:07:07 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Bush_Democrat
With Bill nodding beside her, his hands clasped prayerfully in front of him, nodding and working that jaw muscle he works when he wants you to notice, for just a second, how hard it is sometimes for him to contain his admiration...God I love them.

Sometimes I think Peggy needs to get out out of the house a little more.

4 posted on 02/10/2006 7:08:03 PM PST by stevem
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To: Bush_Democrat

Peggy doin' drugs or something?


5 posted on 02/10/2006 7:10:41 PM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: Cicero

Well, I missed her column about the latest SOTU when it was published, but I'm reading it now. It sucks so far, also. Peggy seems to be getting very bitter in her old(er) age. (I'm probably not that much younger, but I hope I'm not as likely to be called Mrs. Bitterman as she is right now.)


6 posted on 02/10/2006 7:10:52 PM PST by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
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So what? This was the authentic sound of a vibrant democracy doing its thing. It was the exact opposite of the frightened and prissy attitude that if you draw a picture I don't like, I'll have to kill you.

It was: We do free speech here.

I think her point was, whether or NOT you think "something's wrong with this picture", we can still have a spectrum of viewpoints all contained in a civilized and loving ceremony. Nowhere else on Earth does this happen..

God bless America!

7 posted on 02/10/2006 7:10:58 PM PST by ziggygrey
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To: Bush_Democrat

You know i haven't posted about this in order to think about it... but I think my gut reaction still stands - this was an intensely political woman, every thing she did that was about money or her legacy was about politics. She would likely have wanted her funeral to be political.

now, because the president chooses to attend should the speakers have censored themselves from saying what they would have said if he were not there?


8 posted on 02/10/2006 7:11:33 PM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: gondramB

Typo... sorry.

should be "every thing she did that was NOT about money or her legacy was about politics. She would likely have wanted her funeral to be political."


9 posted on 02/10/2006 7:13:06 PM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: Cicero
I have to wonder at Peggy these days.

I agree it wasn't the Wellstone funeral. Of that, there is no doubt. But everything thing she writes these days has an undertone of Anti-Bushism. What is up with that?
10 posted on 02/10/2006 7:13:14 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Cicero
I don't know what it is with Peggy and George W. Bush. She just doesn't seem to like him...

The only person Peggy Noonan seems to like is herself. She's insufferable.

11 posted on 02/10/2006 7:13:27 PM PST by Wolfstar (Someday when we meet up yonder, we'll stroll hand in hand again, in a land that knows no parting...)
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Gee, Stockholm is such a nice city to have a syndrome of!


12 posted on 02/10/2006 7:13:53 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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God I love them.

I'm not the world's biggest fan of Noonan's but I do like much of her writing. And I think if one's read her comments on Clinton, one can understand what she meant by this.

She means she loves them for their entertainment value. She famously once described Billy as "an actor," using the term used to slam Reagan.

I think some people have to keep that in mind when reading the last paragraphs of this. She's saying "God, I love them" the way one says "Get a load of these two."

13 posted on 02/10/2006 7:15:48 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: Bush_Democrat

I wonder if Peggy's okay with the Fred Phelps' protests at soldiers' funerals?


14 posted on 02/10/2006 7:17:19 PM PST by Redgirl
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15 posted on 02/10/2006 7:17:47 PM PST by umgud (uncompassionate conservative)
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To: Wolfstar

Sorry--I suppose Ms Noonan's idea of a funeral is different than mine. Personally, I don't think insults of any sort belong at a funeral. Instead of showing this to the world, I would prefer that NO ONE had seen it!


16 posted on 02/10/2006 7:18:23 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Darkwolf377
I think some people have to keep that in mind when reading the last paragraphs of this. She's saying "God, I love them" the way one says "Get a load of these two."

There you go...

Most of us are pretty political on this site, but Noonan is a writer and a lyrical one at that.. can appreciate certain qualities in people apart from their politics.

17 posted on 02/10/2006 7:19:16 PM PST by ziggygrey
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This behavior should happen NOWHERE!

Stop making excuses for Peggy; she lost it long ago.

18 posted on 02/10/2006 7:19:17 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Darkwolf377

BS. That is what I have to say about your comment. Dont' like it? Too bad.


19 posted on 02/10/2006 7:21:50 PM PST by calex59 (seeing the light shouldn't make you go blind)
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To: Bush_Democrat

Don't miss her point. It's not that she is saying "what" was said is a good thing. She is pointing out that we are a free people who respect free speech as despicable as the speaker might be.


20 posted on 02/10/2006 7:23:48 PM PST by no dems ("99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name." Steven Wright)
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