Posted on 02/10/2006 10:30:16 AM PST by SirLinksalot
That word simply does not apply to Cassius Clay.
this was a mess and Liston was right- If he stood up while Ali was still standing there ranting Ali could have knocked him out for good.
The rule is that the count starts AFTER the opponent goes to the corner.
I will always call him by his given name and never used the Islamic name. I care nothing about his record, he was trash.
I was a huge Cassius Clay fan, until he refused to report for military service. Even as a kid of maybe 12 years, I knew that when called, you said yes. Of course there was only one protester of the war in SE Asia in our town, he was the librarians son. People that spoke out against our troops hereabouts, took their lives into their own hands.
I digress, but Ali as he is now called, was a good fighter, at times he was amazing, but he would have been beaten down by Joe Louis in his prime. Probably the light heavyweight Holyfield would have whooped him too.
song for sonny liston (mark knopfer's take on the story)
so many mouths
to feed on the farm
sonny was the second
to the last one born
his mamma ran away
and his daddy beat him bad
and he grew up wild
good love he never had
he had a left
like henry’s hammer
a right like betty bamalam
rode with the muggers
in the dark and dread
and all them sluggers
went down like lead
well he hung with the hoods
he wouldn’t stroke the fans
but he had dynamite
in both his hands
boom bam
like the slammer door
the bell and the can
and the bodies on the floor
beware the bear’s in town
somebody’s money says
the bear’s going down
yeah, the bear never smiles
sonny’s going down
for miles and miles
sonny’s going down
for miles and miles
the writers didn’t like him
the fight game jocks
with his lowlife backers
and his hands like rocks
they didn’t want to have
a bogey man
they didn’t like him
and he didn’t like them
black cadillac
alligator boots
money in the pockets
of his sharkskin suits
some say the bear
took a flop
they couldn’t believe it
when they saw him drop
he had a left
like henry’s hammer
a right like betty bamalam
rode with the muggers
in the dark and dread
and all them sluggers
went down like lead
joe louis was his hero
he tried to be the same
but a criminal child
wears a ball and chain
so the civil rights people
didn’t want him on the throne
and the hacks and the cops
wouldn’t leave him alone
beware the bear’s in town
somebody’s money says
the bear’s going down
yeah, the bear never smiles
sonny’s going down
for miles and miles
sonny’s going down
for miles and miles
at the foot of his bed
with his feet on the floor
there was dope in his veins
and a pistol on the drawer
there was no investigation
as such
he hated needles
but he knew too much
criss-crossed
on his back
scars from his daddy
like slavery tracks
the second-last child
was the second-last king
never again was it the same
in the ring
he had a left
like henry’s hammer
a right like betty bamalam
rode with the muggers
in the dark and dread
and all them sluggers
went down like lead
they never could be sure
about the day he was born
a motherless child
set to working on the farm
and they never could be sure
about the day he died
the bear was the king
they cast aside
beware the bear’s in town
somebody’s money says
the bear’s going down
yeah, the bear never smiles
sonny’s going down
for miles and miles
sonny’s going down
for miles and miles
His choice regarding the war was one of conviction...he went to prison.
I guess I don't know much about boxing, but most seem like no more than self-centered thugs. If Cinderella man had any truth to it then there was at least one good boxer.
Pugilism is not an "intelligent" sport.
What year did Cassius Clay change his name to Muhammed Ali?
Has the ring of truth.
I think it was well after he fought Sonny Liston.
very nice bluesy tune, also. It's from his latest CD "Shangri-La", which I highly recommend.
That's a fun name to say.
Ferdie Pacheco
Ferdie Pacheco
Apparently March 1964, after fighting Liston.
I loved the movie.
In 1964, after he won the title from Liston. He initially changed his name to Cassius X and then to Ali.
Sometimes the truth is just lying around, waiting for someone to say it. "Artists" can get by with doing that.
Liston threw the fight. The only people who think the punch was legit are Ali-worshippers.
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