[maplegrover]

"The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history. - RAH"

How does one even begin to talk with someone who says such things as the above? Any opposing view has already be labeled "preposterous", "absurd", and "without a shred of evidence". I think it is extremely arrogant of balrog666 to make a blanket pronouncement that every believer's faith in God (the Biblical One) is established on pure fantasy without any basis of historical, scientific, philosophical, or logical evidence - and, then fails to give any evidence or argument (other than his/her say-so) to support his/her thesis.

[Mark Felton]

"How does one even begin to talk with someone who says such things as the above?"

With love and understanding. But we cannot convince anybody about the truth of Jesus Christ. Within balrog666 is a craving, a need, for God, but in people sucyh as he he believes that that need is a cry for something else, like welath, or sex or something else.

There will always be a feeling of "something is missing" in his life until he realizes what that "thing" is, and that it cannot be satisfied by the religions of materialism, or a mate, or drugs, or sex or some other type of religion. Some people and religions resort to relaxation techniques, or re-conditioning programs to try to redefine that innate craving to connect with the one true God.

Ignoring it, drugging it or applying a false "God" are the traditional methods of trying to satisfy that need. They don't work.

[moog]

) is established on pure fantasy

It's established on faith as in my belief in ID being a method of God's creation. I can't "prove" that because I came to that conclusion on my own through my own experiences.

[Boiler Plate]

How does one even begin to talk with someone who says such things as the above?

As the saying goes "Never argue with a crazy person". My advice is to just let 666 talk to himself.

[RunningWolf]

maplegrover these characters you refer too in this thread.

What you see the is pretty much representative of the state of affairs.

There are several like this that pretty much have the run of the whole place in the manner you see, and what you see there is only the tip of the iceberg. Talk about serial? look for the same kind of pus message going back hundreds/thousands of times from the sorts.

Then there are a few more that show up with the same kind of garbage, and then interlace their sac-religious anti-Christian imagery with some moderately veiled white supremacy crap.

Let me guess, you came for dialog and this is what is thrown at you. Well get used to it.

Wolf