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The FBI estimates that well over 100,000 children and young women are trafficked in America today. They range in age from 9 to 19, with the average age being 11.

It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea, than that he would cause one of these little ones to stumble. - Luke 17:2
1 posted on 02/10/2006 7:41:48 AM PST by Sopater
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the predators will adapt their means to whatever the young people are doing -- whether it's malls

I'm appalled at the number of kids whose parents will dump them off unattended at malls.

2 posted on 02/10/2006 7:45:10 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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ABC reports?

It is suspect from the get go. - It reads like other fake news with fake statistics about fake people from so called "reporters."


3 posted on 02/10/2006 7:45:41 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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Bush's fault! He is somehow 'connected' to the sex trade in America. Impeach him now!


4 posted on 02/10/2006 7:48:00 AM PST by GianniV
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Does anyone else think it's wierd that both of the examples are from the same town (Phoenix)?


11 posted on 02/10/2006 7:56:35 AM PST by murdoog
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It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea, than that he would cause one of these little ones to stumble. - Luke 17:2

I second that emotion. In fact, I'd like to hang the millstone personally.

13 posted on 02/10/2006 7:58:49 AM PST by sauropod ("Here Lies Joe Biden, Buried Under His Own Words.")
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sounds like another anorexia hoax to me. I don't doubt that it happens, just nowhere near the volume being quoted here. 100K? That's 2 thousand kids per state. at that rate kids'll be vanishing before our very eyes.

there'd be none left in a few short years!


21 posted on 02/10/2006 8:10:26 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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Tagged for my daughter - later reading


25 posted on 02/10/2006 8:12:04 AM PST by GrandEagle
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If this is true, the predators should be locked up till they die.

But I have a sneaking suspicion that the article is almost entirely fabricated. There's no way such an activity could be so widespread without many people noticing. Also, if it were so widespread, someone -- predator or victim -- would have been found out and the story would have been all over the national press.

I recall a huge "scandal" a few years ago when a large number of day-care providers were alleged to be abusing their charges. People were being arrested left and right with wall-to-wall press. The only problem was, it just wasn't true in the end.
26 posted on 02/10/2006 8:13:03 AM PST by Sarastro
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What you can see, time and time again, is that the predators will adapt their means to whatever the young people are doing -- whether it's malls, whether it's ski slopes, whether it's beaches,"




Or through Gay/Straight Alliance clubs in public schools.


29 posted on 02/10/2006 8:20:29 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Where did they get those ref's, the WWE?)
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Hi All-

This number of "100,000 young prostitutes and slaves" seems a bit unrealistic. Wouldn't we see many more children under duress in our cities and suburbs as we went around our daily business? Cities such as New York have been scrubbed so well of criminality that one rarely even sees adult prostitutes walking around. I don't think this many victims of horrible crime could be swept under the rug as easily as ABC portrays.

~ Blue Jays ~

39 posted on 02/10/2006 8:30:33 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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Two things, multicultural immigration has brought in all the worlds moral standards, I'm sure many of us have stories about what we suspect is criminal behavior by some of the businesses we deal with now, for example I never saw one gas station that dealt with cash only, until the middle eastern- americans took over so much of the self serves. Crime like this is more difficult to deal with than, say pre 1970. The second problem is, because of Feminism we quit teaching our girls to protect themselves. Look at pre-sixties America and you will see that females were much better protected by, cultural rules and personal restrictions.


42 posted on 02/10/2006 8:34:06 AM PST by ansel12
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Every one who hurt these girls should be executed. Period.


43 posted on 02/10/2006 8:35:40 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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equating women who voluntarily enter the fields of porno and/or prostitution with those who are involtarily forced into them is disingenuous.

I question the agenda of whomever does this, especially when groups have to skew the definition of sexual harassment (verbal rumors, etc.) in order to show a problem there.


44 posted on 02/10/2006 8:39:53 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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Torture is too good for these people.


52 posted on 02/10/2006 8:52:51 AM PST by liberte
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And, he said, these predators are going where the kids are.

Vermont? Massachusetts? At least you won't be hassled by the "man" in those two states if and when you get caught.

53 posted on 02/10/2006 8:56:47 AM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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So True! One day they will stand before the Living God. What a fearful time that will be for them.


57 posted on 02/10/2006 9:06:22 AM PST by sam I am
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MORAL ABSOLUTES PING.

DISCUSSION ABOUT:

"Teen Girls Tell Their Stories of Sex Trafficking and Exploitation in U.S."

I think that this is firmly rooted in the break down of moral family values. Parents are so eager to have their children like them, that they fail to do what is necessary to protect them.

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To be included in or removed from the MORAL ABSOLUTES PINGLIST, please FreepMail either MillerCreek or wagglebee.

93 posted on 02/10/2006 2:09:48 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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So wonderful that these two children have been found, saved and returned to their families, but how many more are not?

And, WHO are the MEN involved? This is a grim statement as to the lunacy that many individuals in our society walk around with, unnoticed to their own wives, families, neighbors and coworkers. Each and every one of them described in this story, as with the unidentified probable others, should be...well...a very bad fate awaits them for the evil that they do.

I wish it was possible to save all children from harm, I really do.


94 posted on 02/10/2006 3:41:05 PM PST by MillerCreek
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The FBI estimates that well over 100,000 children and young women are trafficked in America today. They range in age from 9 to 19, with the average age being 11.

Skeptical readers (of which there are quite a few on this thread) can make some calculations to see whether such an allegation is credible.

What does the report of more than 100,000 underage prostitutes with an average age of 11 imply?

1. There is no point kidnapping a girl and prostituting her if there are no customers (johns). Actually, it would require quite a few johns to support each girl (and her pimp).

2. Research on prostitution gives various estimates of the number of johns per prostitute. One estimate is that the average prostitute has 694 paid encounters per year (which the researchers claim is a conservative estimate). (Source: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=11027304) Let’s assume that they’re not all unique, i.e., that johns are habitual and visit a “provider” once a month. Then we’re talking about 694/12 = 58 johns per girl.

3. To support 100,000 such underage prostitutes would therefore require something like 6 million johns with a monthly habit. (100,000*58=5.8 million) (Of course, if they didn’t go monthly, it would require even more johns.)

4. How many men are in the pool who might be johns? Well, they have to be old enough to have the money to spend (let’s say at least 20 years old) and young enough to still have a sex drive (let’s say at most 60 years). The number of American men in that range is approximately 78 million. (Source: http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/idbpyrs.pl?cty=US&out=s&ymax=300)

5. If there are 6 million habitual johns in a possible pool of 78 million men, then one in thirteen of such men are patronizing child prostitutes.

6. I don’t know about you, but I don’t know anybody who is doing this (even taking into account their possible reluctance to brag about it). Furthermore, the only way such a large number of men could be involved would require plenty of word-of-mouth (since advertising would be out of the question), and I’ve never heard anything about it – have you?

7. Next time you’re in the office, or school, or church, or at a ball game, look around and see if you think 1/13 of the men are perverted enough – not to mention accepting of the risk of very long prison terms if caught – to be patronizing child prostitutes with an average age of 11.

My point, of course, is that estimates like these, especially coming from sources with an agenda, and reported in the press, which, as ThinkDifferent said in post 86, “is so easily confused by anything doing with statistics,” should be taken with a pound of salt. I am not justifying, extenuating, or minimizing the sex trafficking of children. As I said in an earlier post, the perpetrators should be locked up and the keys discarded. I just don’t believe the problem is a great as reported, and I know that most FReepers read what’s reported in the press very skeptically, as they should.

100 posted on 02/10/2006 10:09:24 PM PST by Sarastro
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my thoughts exactly!


102 posted on 02/11/2006 7:34:53 AM PST by captmar-vell
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