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Conservatives Unsettled About Movement's Future
New York Times ^ | 2/10/06 | ADAM NAGOURNEY and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 02/09/2006 10:24:33 PM PST by conservative in nyc

Despite the triumph of placing two conservatives on the Supreme Court within four months, leaders of the conservative movement these days seem less celebratory than divided.

Heading into a midterm Congressional election in which the enthusiasm of conservative advocates could play a vital role in determining how Republicans fare, conservative leaders face internal rifts over polarizing issues and are dogged by a sense that a Republican-led Congress and a Republican president are not taking the nation in the proper direction on some critical matters, party leaders said.

The fissures were evident as members gathered here on Thursday for the first day of the annual Conservative Political Action Conference. The first session was marked by disagreement over whether to support a White House plan to allow some illegal immigrants to work legally within the United States and challenges to the legality of the Bush administration's program of eavesdropping without warrants on communications between Americans in the United States and people abroad who might have links to terrorism.

In interviews, conservative leaders emphasized their admiration for President Bush, and said they were heartened by the placement of Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. on the Supreme Court. But they made it clear that that was not enough.

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[Senator Lindsey] Graham said many conservatives like himself were troubled by the administration's arguments for its program to eavesdrop on communications. "The inherent power argument, if you take it to the natural conclusion, there is no role for Congress in a time of war," he said.

Vice President Dick Cheney drew restrained applause Thursday night when he offered a defense of the surveillance program at a dinner of conservative leaders, reflecting the ambivalent feeling among many conservatives toward the program.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: adamnagourney; cheney; conservatives; cpac; daviddkirkpatrick; davidkirkpatrick; kirkpatrick; nagourney; nytimes; slimes
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The New York Times' doom and gloom take on CPAC, for what it's worth. Is the last paragraph about Vice President Cheney's reception remotely true?
1 posted on 02/09/2006 10:24:35 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc
Just more wishful thinking from the lockstep liberal dinosaurs at the Times.
2 posted on 02/09/2006 10:27:06 PM PST by JennysCool (Do not needlessly endanger your lives until I give you the signal. - Ike)
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To: conservative in nyc

lol there was a thread earlier saying he recieved great appaulse I try to find it


3 posted on 02/09/2006 10:30:49 PM PST by bayourant
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[Senator Lindsey] Graham said many conservatives like himself

There's your problem right there. The NY Times believes Lindsey Graham is a conservative. He and his RINO buddy McCain are about as conservative as Howard Dean.

4 posted on 02/09/2006 10:31:17 PM PST by Waryone
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To: conservative in nyc

The Slimes wouldn't see reality, if it were biting its collective noses. This is just "stuff"/propaganda, to cheer up Liberals and make Conservatives angry/worried.


5 posted on 02/09/2006 10:33:34 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Waryone

Exactly so. :-)


6 posted on 02/09/2006 10:34:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Waryone

You couldn't be more righter!!!


7 posted on 02/09/2006 10:34:36 PM PST by SierraWasp (GovernMental EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
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To: JennysCool

Here I was expecting them to talk about illegal immigration.

The spying thing is the last thing on my mind. I applaud it, and if a court is getting the way of a program that's stopping terrorism, bypass it. No sense in wasting time with a broken process.

At least they mentioned the spending issue. That does need to change.


8 posted on 02/09/2006 10:35:13 PM PST by CheyennePress
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The NYT has become the National Lampoon and they don't even know it. Classic. Did they even publish the big Reid story from earlier today (PST)?
9 posted on 02/09/2006 10:35:14 PM PST by Carling (Your Super Bowl XL Champion Pittsburgh SteAlers!)
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To: conservative in nyc

I don't buy the Cheney bit. However, the other two points are quite valid. There is a really significant conservative rebellion on immigration and spending, in particular in the House. The speaker of the house has openly served warning on the spending issue, and it would be foolish to underestimate his power.


10 posted on 02/09/2006 10:35:31 PM PST by Mount Athos
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But they made it clear that that was not enough.

Neither party wants to close the borders or veto any spending.  Net loss for conservatives.

11 posted on 02/09/2006 10:35:41 PM PST by quantim (If the Constitution were perfect it wouldn't have included the Senate.)
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The article does discuss conservatives' disappointment with the administration's immigration proposals. I had to omit it due to copyright constraints. Click on the link for more, if you have the stomach for it.
12 posted on 02/09/2006 10:36:48 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: bayourant
I think this is it...
13 posted on 02/09/2006 10:37:29 PM PST by SierraWasp (GovernMental EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
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To: conservative in nyc

Lindsay Graham is a conservative?

lol


14 posted on 02/09/2006 10:37:49 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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He a wing-nut in the view of the NYT. LOL.


15 posted on 02/09/2006 10:38:44 PM PST by onyx
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The NYT has become the National Lampoon and they don't even know it. Classic. Did they even publish the big Reid story from earlier today (PST)?

I'll look for it. I know there is a Washington Post article about it that I might post if it hasn't been posted already.
16 posted on 02/09/2006 10:38:57 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: onyx

he's got more moves than schwarzeRenegger's stunt double. lol


17 posted on 02/09/2006 10:40:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: conservative in nyc
Geeeeze Elmer, do yall thank them goobers over at the New York Slimes wuld lie to us ol conservatives?
18 posted on 02/09/2006 10:41:30 PM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: bayourant

Adding his voice to the president’s own on the subject, Cheney said that the president’s authorization of some limited domestic surveillance fit snugly in the category of ensuring the safety of the U.S.


"We will not simply sit back until we are hit again,” he said to standing applause.

"He knows what his job is,” Cheney said about the chief executive.

"We are still at risk of attack of attack,” the vice president emphasized – despite those who would "downplay the chances.”

"As long as George Bush is president, we shall not let down our guard,” Cheney concluded to a standing ovation in the Regency Ballroom.


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/2/9/224612.shtml?s=ic


19 posted on 02/09/2006 10:42:01 PM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: conservative in nyc

wow, what a shocker. The times and the rest of the liberal media running stories about how the republican party is falling part during an election year. They never do that.



20 posted on 02/09/2006 10:42:55 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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