[KC Burke]

I am a great admirer of Winston Churchill and have read thousands of pages by, or about, him. I visited his new museum and have audio CDs of his famous speeches.

That being said, he was still properly accessed as "the last Victorian" and that world view was tempered by the faults of that era.

The governmental structures of the middle east were left ill formed and vestigial by Winston and similar world leaders and we have battled problems for seven decades from the effects of the pre-WWI and post WWI structures they set up that were viewed as benevolent at the time.

In the Indian subcontinent, the residual influence of British Order proved to be a beneficial underlying stabilizer as colonialism was removed -- but WC never thought of Gandhi and the movement around him as little more than a "middle temple lawyer." (A trouble making ambulance chaser) He mistook his aesthetic rather than his nationalism as his central strength.

The Shahs handed power in the middle east had in most instances no beneficial order or the west to moderate them entering the modern world. We got the Nazi partners of the forties and the Wahbists because of that.

Some, such a Egypt and Jordan came through the century with a modern influence, but Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Arabian peninsula were all just so much parceled out fiefdoms to those that the Europeans thought "they could work with."

Kurds and others rightly don't look upon him like we do after a hundred years of western initiated subjugation. Sure, he saw the cultural problems and dangers, but seeing them the western liberal governments froze out the resolutions that were needed and made the problems of today more fixed in stone.

[GladesGuru]

“Kurds and others rightly don't look upon him like we do after a hundred years of western initiated subjugation.”

Cultural inferiority simply is. Islam societies are inferior to western societies because of the reasons Churchill so clearly summed up in the River War.

“Sure, he saw the cultural problems and dangers, but seeing them the western liberal governments froze out the resolutions that were needed and made the problems of today more fixed in stone.”

Consider the English truism, “The Arab is either at your throat or at your feet. Better he be at your feet.”

The Muslim understands clearly, and responds best to, power and vengeance.

Islam Delenda Est.