Posted on 02/09/2006 7:39:08 AM PST by bikepacker67
Absolutely. Female circumcision for instance. And we're going to stamp that out as well.
It will come to pass one way or another.
The drums are getting louder.
Yes but you don't actually drink the 'Blood of Christ' do you? You drink wine that has been transmogrified or represents the Blood of Chirst!
I don't think we're trying to destroy the Thuggee religion of the Death God Kali, nutty as it may be.
No, wait, we are. And the same goes for any Deathcult.
Catholics (I am not Catholic) believe that you drink that actual blood of Christ, and eat his actual body.
"I don't think we're trying to destroy a religion, nutty as it may be."
Please reconsider your stance.
It seems you have western sensiblities. Assuming you do, the idea of destroying a "religion" is foreign, and somewhat disturbing.
islam is destructive. Look at the retarded culture it produces. Retarded in terms of technology, retarded in terms of personal liberties. They truely are 7th century beings.
Most things that are destructive, we try to eliminate. If we said, destroy cancer, you'd think that was good. If we said, destroy poverty, you'd like that. If we say destroy islam... you may want to consider what that actually means.
islam is a death cult, cloaked in the garb of a religion.
Circumcising male children and having children drink the blood of Christ are two traditions that might be seen as barbaric or strange to outsiders.
Sorry, in my church we drink WINE.
"Absolutely. Female circumcision for instance. And we're going to stamp that out as well."
Yea, and I believe that comes from the same religion of peace, if I am not mistaken.
I am Catholic, yet I actually drink 'wine' and eat a sanctified 'host'. It's representative you know, and based on Jesus' words to his disciples at the Last Supper. The priest doesn't slit his wrist and add real blood to the wine!
Interesting to note that observation of this holiday was banned under Saddam Hussein, and those who practiced it were punished by his regime.
Funny old world sometimes, isn't it?
Circumcision has a medical basis and is performed by medical professionals, and I have never heard of ANYONE drinking the blood of Christ, since he died millenia ago. These people in the pictures aren't "figuratively" inflicting trauma on their children.
"I share your shock and anger but I don't think we're trying to destroy a religion, nutty as it may be."
Why not? It wouldn't be any loss to the world. In fact, it would make the world a a better place 'til another stupid religion got hold of a billion people.
I am no fan of Islam, and especially the terrorist branch of it, but this "celebration" is not the right sticking point. If we base a judgement of Islam on one festival, we must also bring judgement on a religion that requires its adherents to cut the foreskin from young children as a sign of faith.
Better to concentrate on the spreading wave of violent protests, hate being preached in mosques, terror attacks, holy book filled with calls for subjugation of other faiths, etc., than on expressions of faith that have counterparts in almost every culture.
Circumcising male children, while it sounds (or even looks) bad, is done at a time when the child will feel the least pain, and at the point in time (the 8th day of life) when the body is prepared to heal as rapidly as possible. Further, it offers tremendous health benefits later on (chief among which is a lesser chance of penile cancer and a far lower rate of infection by STDs). All for a "barbaric" religious ritual.
How precious. Nothing like some good family time with the kids.
Quality time............
Yes we do. And that has caused us to be persecuted down through the ages. Others say we are "Cookie Worshippers".
Saddam banned it because it is practiced by Shiites, and he didn't want them getting together too much, as they would probably start talking about the fact that he was committing mass murder on them and try to do something about it. Funny indeed.
"Circumcising male children and having children drink the blood of Christ are two traditions that might be seen as barbaric or strange to outsiders."
Great. Let's go for moral equivalence... not.
Circumcision, while I would agree it's brutal, has in it's roots a concern for cleanliness. It doesn't affect the child's function, and it is easier to keep clean. In past, less clean times, it was not necessarily a bad thing.
Drinking the blood of Christ is completely figurative. That's why one needs to be schooled in the religion. It's not meant to be actual, it's wine. It's just a way to take Christ into you, to be filled with Christ. I understand that you're trying to make a point that the visualization may be considered somewhat violent. But you didn't really have the concept. Think, it may be the yin/yang concept, how can one really know good without evil, tranquility without violence, etc.
However, I defy you to show me the good in beheading.
I have heard stories of Rabbis who circumcise babies with thir teeth. In fact there are a couple of FReepers who have had their children circumcised this way.
My point is that no matter how strange a custom may seem to you, you yourself have customs that seem just as strange to someone else.
NO! It Is The True Body, Not A Symbol! Besides if it was just symbolic we'd be giving the children wine and they'd shut us down PRONTO.
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