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Drawing Conclusions--WHAT THE CARTOONS HAVE REVEALED.
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| 2-8-06
| Martin Peretz
Posted on 02/08/2006 10:59:36 AM PST by SJackson
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To: bayourant
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posted on
02/08/2006 11:30:10 AM PST
by
Nevadan
To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
To a liberal that makes the oposite point. The government must support what ever liberals like or it is horrible and bloody suppression, NAZIlike in its effects. If Joe Blow says he doesn't want to give his money to people who insult him and his beliefs and preferences, that is also NAZI suppression of freedom. A liberal'primary freedom is freedom to finance what he likes with other people's money. A liberal also does not consider himself as free so long as he has not successfully suppressed people who don't agree with him.
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posted on
02/08/2006 11:37:45 AM PST
by
arthurus
(Better to fight them OVER THERE than over here.)
To: Zeppo
Good morning.
"FYI, the source is listed as National Review Online, however the link is to The New Republic..."
Is that confusing or what.
Michael Frazier
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posted on
02/08/2006 11:42:42 AM PST
by
brazzaville
(no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
To: Nevadan
lol yeah i found that off atlas shrugs blog today. Hilarious. I used to love watching that guy on the pbs station. Of course I have problems drawing a stick figure so I was constantly amazed
To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Good point:
The point over the Piss piece and the Dung canvas was about public money and public support. My tax dollars should not be spent in those ways especially when courts demand that any positive image or expression of Christ -- say in a nativity scene -- should be banished from public buildings and never touch public funds. There is some major hypocrisy in the application of the First Amendment.
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posted on
02/08/2006 11:47:43 AM PST
by
GOPJ
(Scantily dressed women a blasphemy? Will cowardly newspapers drop lingerie ads?)
To: ark_girl
Danish Havarti cheese. Be sure to check the label, I had to search for the imported stuff in my grocery store.
Danesborg brand Brie cheese.
Wal-mart has Danish Butter Cookies under their 'Great Value' brand, in tins.
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posted on
02/08/2006 11:50:40 AM PST
by
fanfan
To: SJackson
As I mentioned on another thread, I equate the muslim reaction to the kid who gets caught smoking and pop has him puff on a nice strong cigar to "get his mind right". The posting of these cartoon images on every tree, wall, telephone pole, etc. would illustrate our freedom of expression and our wish for freedom everywhere. The muslims acting out, as also with the democrats, does nothing but hinder their causes. Let freedom ring!!
To: SJackson
The very essence of liberal society is the willingness--OK, the doleful willingness--of its members and constituent groups to be slighted. This statement seems to fly in the face of the current political correctness trend among liberals.
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posted on
02/08/2006 11:58:10 AM PST
by
6ppc
To: bayourant
I used to watch that guy too, but what amazed me the most was his hair!
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posted on
02/08/2006 11:59:32 AM PST
by
Nevadan
To: bayourant
Islam - an enemy culture. [new line here] This recent blow-up by angry Muslims, supposedly over cartoons depicting their prophet, is just the most recent outward expression of the Islamic faith -- a faith which by it's own terms, is at war with everyone else. From early on, that area controlled by Islam was considered the Domain of Peace and everything outside that, the Domain of War. Eventually, they came up with the Domain of Treaty, when they found that they could not beat the Western Crusader all the time. James Fallows wrote of a 'Clash of Civilizations.' As demonstrated by the outpouring of hatred by islamic mobs over cartoons and the ongoing terrorist threat, I would say that a full-blown war with Islam is not a matter of if, but when. [new line here] Some background (courtesy of Wikipedia): For the book by Judith Tarr, see House of War (book). Dar al-Harb (Arabic: دار الحرب "house of war") is a term used to refer to those areas outside Muslim rule. In some conservative traditions of Islam the world is divided into two components: dar al-Islam, the "house of submission" , and dar al-Harb, the "house of war" . The terms are usually understood to refer, respectively, to those lands currently administered by Muslim governments and those administered by non-Muslim governments. The exact definitions of these territories can vary widely according to the viewer's concept of who is and is not a Muslim, and which governments are or are not Muslim in practice. Dar al-Harb and its associated terms are not found in the two most basic works of Islam, the Qur'an and the Hadith. Muslim scholars maintain that the labeling of a country or place as dar al-Islam or dar al-harb revolved around the question of religious security. This means that if a Muslim practices Islam freely in his place of abode, then he will be considered as living in a dar al- Islam, even if he happens to live in a secular or non-Islamic country.During the Ottoman era the term dar al-Ahd, meaning the 'house of treaty', was created to describe the Ottoman Empire's relationship with its Christian tributary states. See dar al-Ahd. For more recent commentary on the meaning and relevance of the term dar al-Harb in the modern world, see the discussion under dar al-Islam.
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posted on
02/08/2006 12:01:15 PM PST
by
Spottswood
(Lord Vader, the fleet has moved out of light speed and we are preparing to......gack!)
To: SJackson
*Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.
* A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims blow up commuter trains in Spain, murdering hundreds and wounding thousands. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslim newspapers regularly publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage
* Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.
* Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.
http://boortz.com/nuze/200602/02032006.html
To: SJackson
Lego is on the taboo list.I bought some Lego the other day. Felt good, even if it was not for me.
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posted on
02/08/2006 12:23:22 PM PST
by
zeugma
(Muslims are varelse...)
To: tx_eggman
Notice that oil is the only product in the Muslim world that we really need there is not much else to sustain their economies
If they start an embargo we will suffer of course but very soon all they will have to eat is sand and camel piss to wash it down
Plus if it really come to that we have the military capacity to go help ourselves
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posted on
02/08/2006 12:36:48 PM PST
by
1903A3
To: SJackson
Let me see if I have this quite right. In these Muslim theocracies you are not allowed to have a picture/image of your great prophet, Mohammed but everywhere around the country are posters of a great mullah, imam, ayatolla, bin ladin, hussein, king, sheik or other party power. Interesting marketing plan.
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posted on
02/08/2006 12:48:12 PM PST
by
Oystir
To: SJackson
Maybe the media execs were thinking about whether our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan would be in more peril if American press outlets reproduced the cartoons. If that were true, they would not have hammered the Abu Ghraib story to death, or the phony Koran flushing, or printed every crticism of the war in Iraq on their front pages day in and day out. They were only concerned for their own pathetic safety.
Christains don't kill you over "piss christ", but muslims will slaughter your whole family over a damn cartoon.
As for boycotts of Danish products, Democracies everywhere should place a complete food trade embargo on any country that boycotts Danish goods. See how long they can keep it up when they start starving to death.
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posted on
02/08/2006 12:51:18 PM PST
by
PsyOp
(The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
To: ark_girl
36
posted on
02/08/2006 1:32:00 PM PST
by
Alouette
(Psalms of the Day: 55-59)
To: SJackson
...I assume that the Danish cartoonists were not Muslims but Lutherans (an overwhelming majority of whom assert that they do not believe in God)...LOL!
Funny.
To: fanfan
Washed down with a cold Tuborg beer.
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posted on
02/08/2006 2:32:43 PM PST
by
dynachrome
("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
To: SJackson
39
posted on
02/08/2006 2:33:29 PM PST
by
dennisw
("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
To: dynachrome
40
posted on
02/08/2006 2:42:59 PM PST
by
fanfan
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