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To: highlander_UW
You are correct, I've seen photos of it taking place in the Philippines. It's unbiblical, but there are some who do it within the catholic church there.

This is not a practice condoned by the Catholic Church. It was practiced in the Middle Ages, but was banned in 1261 by Pope Alexander IV. Another Papal Bull by Pope Clement in 1349 condemned flagellants as heretics.

The self-flagellation and crucifixtions of the Phillipines are not condoned by the Church. There are still some bizzare sects (such as Opus Dei and a couple of isolated monastaries) where this practice continues - but it is certainly no part of the teachings of the Catholic Church.

What about the bizzare Fundamental Protestants that still practice the weird snake handling? Should we pin that on the Baptist Church or on the Church of Christ??

66 posted on 02/08/2006 10:54:17 AM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Tokra
What about the bizzare Fundamental Protestants that still practice the
weird snake handling? Should we pin that on the Baptist Church or
on the Church of Christ??


Having grown up in the mainstream Church of Christ...
snake-handling might be a way to wake up some of the rigid,
extra-legalistic congregations!

(And yes, your point is well-taken)
71 posted on 02/08/2006 11:04:28 AM PST by VOA
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To: Tokra

I think it may be more modern than that, at least the way it seems on this website on mortification of the flesh...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortification_of_the_flesh#Recent_Church_documents


75 posted on 02/08/2006 11:14:25 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Tokra
This is not a practice condoned by the Catholic Church. It was practiced in the Middle Ages, but was banned in 1261 by Pope Alexander IV. Another Papal Bull by Pope Clement in 1349 condemned flagellants as heretics.

The self-flagellation and crucifixtions of the Phillipines are not condoned by the Church. There are still some bizzare sects (such as Opus Dei and a couple of isolated monastaries) where this practice continues - but it is certainly no part of the teachings of the Catholic Church.

It does appear that it's been denounced by the catholic church, however, the fact remains that the pictures I've seen were from some religious parade in the Philippines and it was labeled a catholic procession and that is where the self flagellation was taking place. So we are both correct.

Your attempt to argue like a liberal by bringing up snake handling is lame. Firstly, I'd denounce snake handling as well, although there is at least some scripture they point to about handling snakes and not dying whereas there is nothing that supports self flagellation. But your effort to make one sound better by pointing out another wrong practice is the same tactic that liberals use when they get defensive.

110 posted on 02/08/2006 3:34:50 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Tokra

"What about the bizzare Fundamental Protestants that still practice the weird snake handling? Should we pin that on the Baptist Church or on the Church of Christ??"

Sorry. Can't pin that one on us (Baptists). Those congregations are what is commonly referred to as Holiness sects.


113 posted on 02/08/2006 4:10:35 PM PST by TennesseeGirl
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