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To: Txsleuth

"I don't have a clue why he is being so stubborn on the 'guest worker program' . . ."

I'm a Texan, and I'm very concerned about illegal immigration, too, but I also think I know what's happening.

1) The whole issue is very complicated. It's been tough maintaining a good economy after the Clinton recession and 911. As much as we'd like to deny it, the underground workforce is has a big effect on the overall economy. Messing with it will create problems. Doesn't mean I agree, but I do understand.

2) Bigger issue: population. Bush, despite the aw-shucks facade, is a sophisticated and visionary thinker. The guy sees the big picture, whether it be the entitlement dilemma, Islamic terrorism, or other threats. And he doesn't back down.

Us white folks whose families have been here since the 1600s are not producing enough babies to maintain our population and keep this country viable. Neither are black families who are part of the educated middle class. We yearn for prosperity, and, let's face it: kids are a drain on the pocketbook.

From the economy, to revenue, to innovation, to the armies that defend us, we have to have people. Without immigration, we will die, like "Old Europe" is doing now.

Better Mexicans than Arabs.

If, as a Texan, you know Mexican families like I do, you know that they are mostly hard-working, church-going, good folks with big families. Very family-oriented, so much so that their kids tend to drop out of school at 16 to help make ends meet.

They pay taxes. They pay into Social Security. They make great soldiers. Look at the casualty lists from Iraq. Even those illegals who are overburdening our schools and welfare systems want to be legitimized and allowed to pay into the system.

The violent Mexican gangs are very much an exception. They do not represent the average and ubiquitous Mexican immigrant.

I know what I've just said is not popular, but I believe it to be the truth. The US needs a stable and committed population to survive, financially and militarily. The dilemma is how to sift through those trying to enter and legitimize the good guys.

That's what the Guest Worker program is all about.

My opinion. Take it for what it's worth.


44 posted on 02/08/2006 11:11:35 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah

I appreciate your opinion very much...it is well thought out and, probably very close to being correct.

And, like you said, not very popular.

I think that the MEDIA that is usually considered conservative are behind a lot of the "angst"...and it makes all of us on the "conservative" sites even more combative.

Thanks for your post...I liked it a lot.

I do know one thing...neither the democrats OR the Republicans, with the exeception of a few, like JD Hayworth are willing to tackle this during an election year...so I wouldn't look to any real legislation DONE this year..IMHO>


46 posted on 02/08/2006 11:31:16 AM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: Jedidah

bump


49 posted on 02/08/2006 11:53:01 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by the American Democrat Party. aka Al Qaeda, Western Division.)
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To: Jedidah
Us white folks whose families have been here since the 1600s are not producing enough babies to maintain our population and keep this country viable. Neither are black families who are part of the educated middle class. We yearn for prosperity, and, let's face it: kids are a drain on the pocketbook

Sorry, thats untrue.

There is a huge difference between remaining viable, and a population explosion that strains the very fabric of our society and its resources,

When I was in HS the population was approaching the 200 million mark.

I assume that you know what it is now?

We did not get over 150 million immigrants in that time, and I further say that this type growth of unrestrained "growth" would be more properly termed "cancer."

54 posted on 02/08/2006 12:09:33 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Jedidah
"My opinion. Take it for what it's worth.

Interesting arguments. Your perspective is quite different. Might have to rethink the issue. Thanks.

63 posted on 02/08/2006 1:28:45 PM PST by Mr_Peter (Don't let the door hit ya in the a$$ on the way out Bushy...but don't let a Democrat in!)
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