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To: LouAvul

CARTER: It was difficult for them personally with the civil liberties of both husband and wife violated as they became the targets of secret government wiretapping, other surveillance.

(Video clip ends)

O'BRIEN: All right. Not so subtle a statement there .What were your thoughts on this as you watched this unfold? Did it surprise you, first of all?

GREENFIELD: Well, I can't say that, because she was such a symbol of a particular moment in American political history. We should mention, by the way, that Martin Luther King was wiretapped during the Kennedy and Johnson administrations at the direction of Attorney General Robert Kennedy, who was a hero of that movement.

But what struck me also was how quickly this became an item within the other side, within the political right. And within hours, I think when the funeral was still going on, this popped up as the headline on "The Drudge Report," which often begins the transmission through particularly conservative media.

On "Hannity & Colmes" last night on Fox, it was the lead item. And Rush Limbaugh on his Web site went off on Joseph Lowery, whose piece he played, and called it -- and this was really the key, as you mentioned in your intro to this, "a Wellstone moment."

O'BRIEN: Tell us about that. We're referring to the late senator.

GREENFIELD: Right.

Back in 2002, shortly before the election, Senator Wellstone was killed in a plane crash. And at the memorial service, a number of political people made the point to honor Paul Wellstone's memory, vice president -- ex-vice president Mondale who was running in the state should be elected. There were also -- there was some booing, apparently, not that much, directed at some Republican senators there.

It became an article of faith on the political right that this had become a real ugly moment, when partisanship replaced memorials. After the funeral yesterday, Kate O'Beirne, a prominent conservative writer, said liberals don't know how to keep politics out of their funerals.

And on the Daily Kos, which is a site from the left, the argument was these conservatives had nothing to do with civil rights, they have no right to lecture us.

O'BRIEN: Well, let's talk about this, because when you talk about a Wellstone moment, timing is an awful lot in politics. And the timing there very different than here.

GREENFIELD: Absolutely. That memorial service happened literally three or four days before the election. And there was a backlash to it that may have helped the Republicans take that Senate seat.

We're now in early February. The idea that this is going to have some political implication, you have to really be overcommitted to endless analysis.

I do, however, think that in a more subtle way, this actually rebounds to the credit of President Bush. I mean, he came to the funeral, changed his plans, made a gracious speech. And I think for people who are not politically committed -- I mean, if you don't like George Bush, this was fine. If you like George Bush, this was horrible.

I think for a lot of people the idea is, do you really do this at a funeral?


26 posted on 02/08/2006 8:54:10 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

GW should have referred to the situation with Iran right now and thanked Jimmah for his legacy.


38 posted on 02/08/2006 8:57:18 AM PST by Inkie (Attn Dems: Loose Lips Sink Ships -- but hey, I guess that's your goal))
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To: finnman69
Kate O'Beirne, a prominent conservative writer, said liberals don't know how to keep politics out of their funerals.

Well, now, Katie me lass, that's 'cause dead liberals keep voting!

59 posted on 02/08/2006 9:02:08 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: finnman69

"And I think for people who are not politically committed.."

That's probably most people. Hence incidents and soundbites take precedence over policy.


74 posted on 02/08/2006 9:09:29 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: finnman69

We should all call Teddy's office to ask how he felt about Carter criticizing his brothers for their civil rights record at the funeral.


119 posted on 02/08/2006 9:54:31 AM PST by Eva
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To: finnman69

We should all call Teddy's office to ask how he felt about Carter criticizing his brothers' for their civil rights record at the funeral.


121 posted on 02/08/2006 9:55:16 AM PST by Eva
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