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A Young Bush Appointee Resigns His Post at NASA
New York Times ^ | February 8, 2006 | Andrew C. Revkin

Posted on 02/08/2006 8:33:55 AM PST by MurryMom

George C. Deutsch, the young presidential appointee at NASA who told public affairs workers to limit reporters' access to a top climate scientist and told a Web designer to add the word "theory" at every mention of the Big Bang, resigned yesterday, agency officials said.

Mr. Deutsch's resignation came on the same day that officials at Texas A&M University confirmed that he did not graduate from there, as his résumé on file at the agency asserted.

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To: Right Wing Professor
Neither appears in the article posted.

See post 61 by Commie Mommy.

121 posted on 02/08/2006 10:03:32 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I don't sneer at the word "theory" when I talk about the Big Bang - I just like being accurate - I do not believe the Big Bang THEORY is mutually exclusive to the Book of Genesis either.


122 posted on 02/08/2006 10:03:51 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: DJ MacWoW
I'm actually still questioning the premise that he didn't graduate. The NYT cites one A&M administrative assistant, however, I seem to remember this guy writing for the Battalion in 04 and being listed as an 03 Alumni.. seems to be a contradiction if A&M lists him as an alumni, but this one source says he 'didn't meet all requirements' to graduate.. I wonder if he did graduate but some admin with a beef against President Bush found an i he didn't dot or something like that..
123 posted on 02/08/2006 10:04:16 AM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: orionblamblam

We at least agree that "A PAO needs to be able to relate his employers news, polciies, whatever to the public in an accurate and concise manner." Have a nice day.


124 posted on 02/08/2006 10:04:42 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: MurryMom

Where in the article does it say he was a republican? It doesn't. Kind of leaping to assumptions there aren't you? Maybe he was, but why would I care if he was a republican or democrat? Maybe politics aren't the most important consideration when getting jobs at NASA? It wouldn't matter to me either way. Just maybe he got the job because, according to his resume, he was the most qualified. But he lied on the resume and got fired as a result. He deserved to get fired.

And stop trying to spin this into something about Bush politicizing science. So some appointee wanted to add the word "theory". It is a theory. Scientists do not claim to know what happened at the instant of the big bang, or what caused it.


125 posted on 02/08/2006 10:05:47 AM PST by faq
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To: clawrence3

> "Big Bang" is indeed a THEORY - what part of that don't you people understand?!

What many of us don't understand is why some people seem to insist on declaring that "theory =/ fact" and then wanting to label everything they don't like a "theory." Well, to be more precise, what we don't understand is how some people can be like that and still have a measure of self-respect.


126 posted on 02/08/2006 10:05:50 AM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Why do you believe that Bush personally appointed this kid?

The kid is a political appointee. Whether Bush personally knows him is a straw man.

Let me quote you a statement from Duetsch in October:

The Big Bang is not proven fact; it is opinion...It is not NASA’s place, nor should it be to make a declaration such as this about the existence of the universe that discounts intelligent design by a creator. This is more than a science issue, it is a religious issue. And I would hate to think that young people would only be getting one-half of this debate from NASA. That would mean we had failed to properly educate the very people who rely on us for factual information the most.

So we have a political appointee, vetting materials from a scientific organization, for religious correctness.

127 posted on 02/08/2006 10:06:11 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: mnehrling

Your premise wouldn't surprise me at all. The NY Times lies regularly.


128 posted on 02/08/2006 10:06:41 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: clawrence3

> I don't know - look it up if you want.


Hold up, hoss. First you declare that he was just followign the AP manual... now you admit you've no idea what it actually says.

Dishonest much?


129 posted on 02/08/2006 10:08:02 AM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: orionblamblam

As I said on the other thread, I believe you are confusing, to a large degree, scientific "theory" and fact.


130 posted on 02/08/2006 10:08:15 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: Right Wing Professor
The kid is a political appointee. Whether Bush personally knows him is a straw man.

No. It is exactly the point. Blame Bush whether he did it or not.

131 posted on 02/08/2006 10:08:35 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: clawrence3

> now we just have to convince the "scientists" on this thread WHY every job does not require science training.

We're not talking *every* job. Just those like, say, NASA PAO, where knowledge and understand of science really are required.


132 posted on 02/08/2006 10:09:11 AM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: clawrence3

Interesting reading on below site re: Presidetial Appointee Initiative (Bipartisan).

http://www.appointee.brookings.org/pai_hp.htm


133 posted on 02/08/2006 10:09:18 AM PST by antceecee (Reagan Democrat and now a Bush Republican...)
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To: orionblamblam

Not at all - he was following the AP Style manual as to the Big Bang THEORY - you asked another question, whether the AP Style manual requires THEORY with Creationism. Let me know if you don't even understand your own questions anymore.


134 posted on 02/08/2006 10:10:04 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

And as I pointed out... no, I'm not Theory and Fact are not mutually exclusive.


135 posted on 02/08/2006 10:10:57 AM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: orionblamblam

Please cite to said "requirement" in any government publication, i.e. the Federal Register, job listings, etc.


136 posted on 02/08/2006 10:11:05 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: orionblamblam

Do janitors at NASA "require" science training?


137 posted on 02/08/2006 10:11:44 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: MurryMom

Whichever party is in the seat of appointment power attracts charlatans.


138 posted on 02/08/2006 10:12:05 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: clawrence3

> he was following the AP Style manual as to the Big Bang THEORY

And what does the AP Style Manual have to say about the Big Bang? Especially given that it is almost *never* referred to as the "Big Bang THEORY?"

Quotes, please.


139 posted on 02/08/2006 10:12:12 AM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: clawrence3

Do janitors need to explain science to the public?

Sheesh.


140 posted on 02/08/2006 10:12:51 AM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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