I have a very mundane job, my car is searched every time I leave my work compound. I have to allow security to look in my vehicle, and I have to open my trunk for them.
If I have merchandise in my car, I have to show proper documentation for that merchandise.
Should employers allow theft in the workplace to go unchecked in order to safeguard employee's "privacy rights"?
Weird reply. --- Luis, why do you imagine this is the issue? -- Would the security guard guestion your ownership of a shotgun in your trunk?
Would managment fire you for having one?
If you believe that there is a Constitutional right to privacy, then you must support both Roe v. Wade, and Lawrence v. Texas. You can't argue in favor of privacy rights out of one side of your mouth, and against them out of another; standing on the fence is standing for nothing.
Why are you babbling about privacy? The issue here is a gun in your trunk.. Can you be fired for having it there?
If you argue that a property owner does not have the right to restrict people with guns from entering and remaining in his property because it violates the Second Amendment, then you must also be willing to allow a Muslim cleric to conduct services in your living room, lest you violate his First Amendment rights to free speech and freedom of religion.
No, thats a absurd comparison. A fanatic preaching in your living room has nothing - zip - to do with having a gun in your trunk while parked at work.
So then, can an employer set conditions of employment for his company which include restrictions on legal materials that can be brought onto his property? Absolutely.
Nope, not absolutely. Your employer is bound by our Constitution, as are you. It's Constitutional to have gun in your trunk. [locked in your trunk, the weapon is on your property]
Pornography is legal, but I don't have to allow it on my property at all.
A rational security guard, searching your property, your car for pilfered objects, would be obliged to ignore your personal porn. [locked in your trunk, the porn is on your property]
So then, if you accept a job with the understanding that a condition of that employment includes not being able to bring a weapon onto the property of your employer, [locked in your trunk, the weapon is on your property] then you must also accept the fact that the employer has the right to make sure that his conditions and employment regulations are being met, so he can in fact search your car to make sure that you are abiding by workplace rules.
Your employers 'workplace rules' are restricted by our Constitution. It's Constitutional to have gun in your trunk. "[locked in your trunk, the weapon is on your property]"
Most employment is in fact an at-will contract; either party can terminate the contract at any time, and for any reason. Some reasons for refusing work or terminating work have been made unlawful; race, gender, and age are most notable, thus they are considered a protected class; when entering an at will employement contract, you don't have the choice of making a decision on your skin color in order to get the job, you don't have the ebility to become younger to accept the job, and you can't grow a penis to get the job. Well, you can have one surgically added or removed...but let's not go there. :-) You can however, make a choice to not bring a weapon in your car,
But your employer can't restrict your right to bring a weapon in your car. "[locked in your trunk, the weapon is on your property]"
not to accept the job based on a condition that you don't agree with, park your car off-premises in order to retain your ability to carry the weapon to and from work,
Not true, as local ordinances control employee parking most everywhere. THis is a BIG part of the issue, luis, and you refuse to admit it.
or even break the implied contract and bring a weapon with you to work with the understanding that you will forfeit your job if you are caught.
This legislation being considered by the Florida legislature (my legislature) removes rights,
So you've claimed, but what 'rights' does it remove? -- Who is harmed by a gun in a trunk? "[locked in your trunk, the weapon is on your property]"
we know that all that government can do is to limit or remove rights; governments don't grant rights. This legislature removes a property owner's right to set the conditions under which people can enter and remain in his property...
Nope, that's what you've claimed, but what 'rights' does it remove? -- Who is harmed by a gun locked in a trunk in the parking lot? "[locked in your trunk, the weapon is on your property]"
that's a bad thing, not a good one, and it will be abused. We get the tyranny we demand.
Get a grip luis, there is no "tyranny" in having a shotgun locked in the trunk of a car.
Tell me tommy, where is the Constitutional Article limiting the individual rights of the citizens?
So do I.
Amendment IX.The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Your right to bear arms does not deny me my property rights, and your right to bear arms in the public square does not extend to my property.
Checkmate tommy.