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Joanie and Jeff, I never thought I would hear both of you defending the banning of guns. There's a lot of food for thought to digest here, I'll be back.

I am not defending the banning of guns...I am defending the right of a property owner to establish what comes onto his/her property...even if I disagree with them. As I said, outside of the invasion/insurrection scenario.

I wouldn't do it, I do not agree with it...but since it is their property they have a right to establish the rules on their own property.

Don't be surprised that some gun owners wish to disarm other gun owners. Here's an example I saw at my conceal carry training course in North Carolina:

A student I'll call "Biff", repeatedly asked the instructor on where to get a sign barring licensed individuals from carrying at his business. The instructor repeatedly stated that he knew of no source for obtaining such signs. Later on Biff started giving out more details on what he wanted for a sign. He wanted a magical sign that would prohibit everyone except for himself from carrying! To quote Biff, he said "I don't want any of 'THAT' going on around MY business".

There you have it -- bigoted gun owners who want to disarm everyone else and leave them vulnerable to criminals.