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Luis Gonzalez wrote:

You just made the argument that the government can tell me what I must use my property for, and that I can't set rules for entry, because your right to park supersedes my right to my property.

Not true. You've been told that we the people have a right to keep arms in vehicles, and you can't infringe on our right.

I'm not infringing on your right to carry, you can keep your guns in your vehicle, but you can't park your vehicle with guns in my parking lot.

Deny it if you must, but that is an infringement on your employees right to bear arms.

You wish to park your vehicle in my property, against my wishes,

Nope, -- In the real world employees are required to park on your property, by local ordinance.

and thus you seek to violate MY rights, and you want ti use government to facilitate the violation of my individual property rights.

Rave on, -- you are banning guns, yet your 'rights' are violated? What right do you have to ban guns? And why do you want to?

You are creating some absurd Constitutional right to convenient parking. It doesn't exist.

True, it doesn't exist except in your mind.

When the government violates the rights of industry owners in the name of the worker, we have socialism.

When the government allows industry owners to violate the gun rights of employees in the guise of 'safety', we'll have socialism.

It's the same argument that liberals use to promote the right to kill the unborn, a non-existent right (to park conveniently/privacy) used to violate an unalienable right (to property/life).

When desperate luis, you use any argument. Give it up.

"You've been told that we the people have a right to keep arms in vehicles, and you can't infringe on our right."

I'm not, and I don't want you to infringe on my right to keep and manage my property as I see fit, so keep your gun in your car, and your car off my property.

You have no right to park your car on my property unless I grant you that right.

There is no Constitutional right to park tommy...I don't care how much you try to twist this into a Second Amendment issue, it isn't, it's a parking issue.

My employee absolutely retains his right to bear arms, until the moment that he enters my property, at that moment, my property rights take over and he is allowed on my property only with my approval.

"...In the real world employees are required to park on your property, by local ordinance."

Bull hockers...I live in the real world, and employees are not required to drive to work, let alone park some place specifically.

Show me the ordinances.

"What right do you have to ban guns?"

My house, my property, my right...don't like it?

Don't enter.

"When the government allows industry owners to violate the gun rights of employees in the guise of 'safety'"

Lying now?

In the name of property rights, not safety.

You have no Constitutional right to park.

Your argument of course is silly, and simply won't wash. First you do not have the right to park in your employers parking lot, you can take public transportation to and from work. {by the way the govt. has the right to ban you from riding public transportation if armed} And now the kicker! The employer also has the right not to hire folks who own guns!, and to fire any employer he believes owns a gun!.As a life long NRA member I fully support the 2nd amend, but some of the asinine arguments on this thread saying employers have no say if employees take weapons onto their property is laughable at best.