NRA bill would OK guns in cars at work

MiamiHerald.com ^ | Feb. 08, 2006 | MARC CAPUTO

[neverdem]

IIRC, the Chamber of Commerce likes open borders too. It appears to be another reason not to be registered and vote against the dems. It's small wonder that voter turnout is so abysmal.

[neverdem]

BANG!

[massgopguy]

And my boss would know there is a gun in my trunk how?

[rarestia]

This legislation makes sense to me, but I've never worked for an employer with a strict no-gun regulations extending into their parking lot. What they don't know, won't hurt them, I suppose, and besides, the 2A guarantees me a right to have that firearm. Not taking it into the workplace to honor the policies of my company is my choice.

[taxcontrol]

I'm pro 2nd and pro business. The better path would be to require business to choose either an allow or prohibit posture.

If the businesses adopts an allow policy, then the business is exempt from lawsuits resulting from an employee's misuse of the firearm.

If the business adopts a prohibit posture, then they are subject to being sued if the employee is unable to protect themselves with a firearm while on business property.

[neverdem]

And my boss would know there is a gun in my trunk how?

"The measure was inspired by a case out of Oklahoma in 2002, when a dozen paper mill workers were fired after bosses found out they had guns in their cars."

The companies asserted a right to conduct health and welfare inspections because the employees' vehicles were parked on the company's parking lot.

[tfecw]

"The companies asserted a right to conduct health and welfare inspections because the employees' vehicles were parked on the company's parking lot"

I dunno, i lean towards private property owners making their own choices on their property, but i don't understand why a company would go fishing like that. If their management has problems firing people, i'll do it for 50 bucks a head. No need to search their cars, drug test, or whatever just to lay people off.

[stuartcr]

How would this work on a military base, or federal property?

[absolootezer0]

i'm glad one of the things MI is pretty good on is their gun laws. MI recognizes that your vehicle is your personal property, and that you may have you gun in your vehicle anywhere. including schools, courts, police stations, and everywhere else.

[from occupied ga]

Same thing going on in ga HB998 Same sort of crap from the business lobby.

[from occupied ga]

firearm while on business property.

And what about on the way to and from the business property? After all that's where this is going to be effective. Locked in the car isn't going to do anyone any good in a post office type shooting, but that isn't what's being addressed here.

[Dead Corpse]

Extension of the "castle doctrine". It's only logical. The employer owns everything from the tar on down. Everything from the tires on up is mine. I need the tools requisite to ensure my safety on my way too and from the job site.

Why this is even an issue is a measure of how far out of fashion common sense has fallen.

[Dead Corpse]

I could settle for that. Makes sense on both sides.

Which means it doesn't have a chance in hell in todays political climate of widespread adoption.

[weegee]

ACLU urges bill to permit free speech in cars at work.

NAACP urges bill to permit civil rights in cars at work.

It is ridiculous to believe that they should be abridging your rights to begin with.

Once you step INTO the office, it is a different story. If they don't trust employees and want to keep the building safe, make everyone enter through a metal detector. And a suggestion, don't terminate 7+ year employees with new families AND give the CEO a $50million golden parachute when he is fired. There are ways to avoid violence in the workplace altogether other than telling workers they must find other ways to defend themselves on their daily commute.

And isn't it terminated employees that do most of these shootings? What makes anyone think the criminal ex-employee is going to obey their RULES anyway?

[Disambiguator]

I agree with your take on the issue. It's one thing to have employees carrying firearms inside the workplace, but locked in their cars in the parking lot? Who cares?

Here in NM your vehicle is considered part of your house, with all the rights that go along with it.

[mr_hammer]

What happens when that employee has a 60 mile commute from work? Is that employee not being denied his or her Constitutional right because of the actions taken by the employer not allowing a person to have a firearm in their auto?

Looks like there is a show down coming between the social Conservatives and business interests.

[Redbob]

"Bill sponsor Rep. Dennis Baxley, an Ocala Republican, said he filed the legislation..."

What, you mean it wasn't the NRA that actually filed the legislation?
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[neverdem]

How would this work on a military base, or federal property?

Like going postal in gun-free zones?

[VanDeKoik]

You drive your car to my private business as my employee, I can have your car searched.

Dont want it searched? Walk to work or park on the street.

[VanDeKoik]

No. As long as the car is in their lot, which is their private property, they do not have to care how far you drive.

Simple solution: Start your own business and make your own rules.