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To: excludethis

This history proves one thing...Presidents throughout American history have violated the Constitution and the Supreme Court has, in most cases, acceded to these violations...but we all knew that


4 posted on 02/08/2006 6:24:08 AM PST by Irontank (Let them revere nothing but religion, morality and liberty -- John Adams)
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To: Irontank; All

How wrong you are.

The judges of the United States Supreme Court have not "acceded to...violations" of the Constitution by "Presidents throughout American history".

What they have done is "acceded to" the demands of the Constitution, recognizing its deliniation of the powers and duties of the Chief Executive of the government, the President. They have not allowed Congress to politicize the excercise of those specific executive powers, when it upsets Congress that the Constitution did not divide those specific powers between them, Congress, and some President they don't like.

The founders created a Constitution that wisely established that foreign policy, war making and national defense activities are best handled by a single, highest elected authority, the Chief Executive and that Executive's role as Commander in Chief, and that they not be conducted by a committee from Congress.

They have also recognized that in as much as that division of powers is laid out specifically in the Constitution, mere legislation, as opposed to a Constitutional amendment, cannot unilaterally subdivide those powers, nor can the courts, unilaterally do so - just because they may like to enhance their own power (as does Congress).

In practical terms, what the Courts have done is avoided joining the Congress in its political disputes over constitutionally deliniated Executive Powers. The Courts have forced Congress to recognize it has a remedy to such disputes, if it so willing to attempt that remedy - seek an amendment or amendments to the Constitution. No Congress has been willing to do so and its doubtful any such attempt would succeed.

Given the temerity (unwillingness to act decisively), hypocrisy, political rangling and infighting, backstabbing, deal-making, grandstanding, demogoguery, media-attention-grabbing that passes for Congressional committee "hearings", we must thank God that the authority and powers regarding foreign policy, war making and national security operations are not exercised by such committees.

Try watching the series "24" some time, and afterwards you will thank God that such a "CTU" (Counter Terrorism Unit), as we may have operating somewhere in the country, as depicted on that show, is not running to Congress or a FISA judge every five minutes. They are too busy getting done the job that you, your children and your grandchildren hope to God they are getting done. They have no time or resources to listen into a recitation of the ingrediants to your aunt Mable's secret sauce, even if they wanted to.


16 posted on 02/08/2006 8:21:12 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Irontank; Wuli
Now liberals do not want the Supreme Court interpreting the Constitution since their liberal friends are being run off it! So who then, their liberal friends on a lowly Senate committee? The poor liberals cannot face the fact that the President has this power under the Constitution and no amount of whining or unconstitutional legislation will change it. If liberals do not like the President's EXCLUSIVE power to CONDUCT WAR and FOREIGN AFFAIRS under the Constitution, I dare you to try and amend it!
17 posted on 02/08/2006 9:28:27 AM PST by excludethis
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