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Thousands Of Barges Could Save Europe From Deep Freeze [Global warming to cause deep freeze]
Science Daily ^ | February 7, 2006 | University of Alberta

Posted on 02/07/2006 12:32:30 PM PST by Brilliant

It is ironic that one consequence of global warming is that Europe might plunge into a deep freeze. This possibility stimulated an unusual research project at the University of Alberta.

Dr. Peter Flynn, the Poole Chair in Management for Engineers in the U of A Department of Mechanical Engineering, has studied whether down-welling ocean currents can carry more dissolved carbon into the deep ocean. He learned they can't, but in the course of this research he found some evidence that the ocean currents that bring warm water to the oceans off northern Europe may be weakening.

The results of the research have been published recently in the journal Climatic Change.

"The current is like an ocean conveyor belt," Flynn explained. "It starts in the north Atlantic, where down-welling, cold, arctic water flows south at the bottom of the ocean, and then warm, tropical water flows north to fill in the vacuum created by the cold water, and this warm water helps ensure a mild climate in northern Europe."

The melting of fresh water ice due to global warming can reduce the flow of the down-welling current, and a study published recently in the journal Nature by researchers at the University of Southhampton in England reported evidence of weakening down-welling currents.

Flynn and a graduate student evaluated seven different methods to enhance down-welling currents. They found one way was far more cost effective than the others: making thicker sea ice by pumping salty ocean water on top of ice sheets.

They envisioned more than 8,000 barges moving into the northern ocean in the fall, speeding the initial formation of sea ice by pumping a spray of water into the air, and then, once the ice is formed, pumping ocean water on top of it, trapping the salt in the ice and reaching a thickness of seven meters.

In the spring, water would continue to be pumped over the ice to melt it, forming a vast amount of cold, salty water that sinks and adds to the down-welling current to re-strengthen it.

The estimated cost is about $50 billion.

"When we first did this study we thought this idea was way too expensive--we were shocked by the numbers," Flynn said. "But let's say conservatively that there are 100 million people in Europe affected by this current. Fifty billion dollars would come to 500 dollars per person, and we don't think that is an unreasonable price if the glaciers are at your backdoor and your way of life is disappearing."

Flynn emphasizes that his group does not propose this scheme as the first or best choice, since all geo-engineering projects have a risk of unforeseen circumstances.

"The best way to deal with global warming is to deal with the causes, fossil carbon in the atmosphere, not the symptoms," he said. "However, if our efforts to control CO2 levels in the atmosphere fail and we reach a crisis, we can contemplate emergency action."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 1borneveryminute; barnumwasright; europe; globalwarming; iceage
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You knew this was coming...
1 posted on 02/07/2006 12:32:32 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Maybe the coming Ice Age will cause global warming.


2 posted on 02/07/2006 12:33:40 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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[It is ironic that one consequence of global warming is that Europe might plunge into a deep freeze.]



It is not ironic. It is IDIOTIC.


3 posted on 02/07/2006 12:33:51 PM PST by spinestein (All journalists today are paid advocates for someone's agenda.)
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To: Brilliant

I love it...just in case the weather turns cold, it's still "global warming."

God, I hate liberal people.


4 posted on 02/07/2006 12:34:01 PM PST by Tulane
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To: Brilliant
"It is ironic that one consequence of global warming is that Europe might plunge into a deep freeze."

"Ironic" isn't the word.

5 posted on 02/07/2006 12:35:30 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Brilliant
if our efforts to control CO2 levels in the atmosphere fail

China?, India?, can you please stop all your economic development stat, por favor?

6 posted on 02/07/2006 12:35:59 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Brilliant

Why didn't they think of that in "The Day After Tomorrow?"


7 posted on 02/07/2006 12:36:30 PM PST by Aetius
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Hey, it's been the balmiest January in Toronto ever. Screw Europe, I love the changing weather pattern.


8 posted on 02/07/2006 12:36:32 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: Tulane

What it shows is that these pseudo scientists who work for academia can do studies that prove anything, and they are quite willing to do that in order to support their political biases.


9 posted on 02/07/2006 12:36:38 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Tulane

10 posted on 02/07/2006 12:37:45 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Brilliant
The estimated cost is about $50 billion.

Paging Mr. Soros.....Mr. Soros....please pick up the courtesy phone.....

11 posted on 02/07/2006 12:39:37 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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You knew this was coming...

Yes, I did, but only because I had advance warning...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1573327/posts

12 posted on 02/07/2006 12:39:58 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Brilliant

I've got two words for the Euro-weenies - Dress Warmly.


13 posted on 02/07/2006 12:40:15 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (When Bush says "we mustn't act like clowns," the RATS don their multi-colored wigs and greasepaint.)
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To: Brilliant
How about a study to see if the axis is now moving to a more horizontal spin with the south pole facing the sun, that means everything along the equator and the dark North Pole will be totally covered in ... Antarctica will be the only warm spot in the entire world. Buy your realstate now.
14 posted on 02/07/2006 12:40:34 PM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: Brilliant

Yeah, but what about the poplution the barges cause?


15 posted on 02/07/2006 12:40:41 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: timsbella
I love the changing weather pattern.

January, North America warm, Europe cold.

Works for me!

16 posted on 02/07/2006 12:40:52 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Brilliant
The darned climate has been changing since the last ice age. Heck, it even changed a bit DURING the ice age before it ended. There were even changes in climate BEFORE the last ice age, before it changed into the ice age we are out of now.

And the darned solar output is not as stable as we thought, and the north magnetic pole is shifting around, and precession is making Polaris drift.

Just a hundred fifty years ago many people believed that nothing on Earth ever changed, or changed only infinitesimally with time.

The trick is not to build a civilization that absolutely requires a stable climate and fixed ocean level. To do otherwise would be as silly as building a major city at a river delta, and building levees as the river sinks the city.

"Soon, you'll achieve the stability you strive for, in a place among the fossils of our time..."
17 posted on 02/07/2006 12:41:15 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Brilliant
We're doomed!
We're saved!
We're doomed!
We're saved!
We're doomed!
We're saved! [sigh]
18 posted on 02/07/2006 12:41:40 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: timsbella

I've worn shorts every day this winter. Of course now they're worn out and I need some more. You think Walmart is selling shorts for Valentine's?


19 posted on 02/07/2006 12:42:34 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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Wait a minute, Global Warming will cause a freeze in Europe? Let me see if I understand this- here in STL Global Warming would mean fishing all year round, BBQing all year round, baseball year round, the Lake all year round and Europe freezes?? Where is the downside, Al??


20 posted on 02/07/2006 12:45:03 PM PST by cardinal4
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