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To: Polybius

I started my own business with a friend in July. It has not made a lot of money yet, but it has been profitable. But it has taken a while to incorporate, open a bank account, line up wholesalers and whatnot. If I could be my own boss (or work along with my partner/friend), I do not think I would become conservative, but I do know I would move slightly to the right, since taking orders from bosses, not being in control of my work and so forth is what agitates me.

In my definition of capitalism, being my own boss would put me outside of the system of capitalism. But even if we do call that capitalism, my problem with capitalism is the existence of the relationship between a worker and a boss/employer.

Really, you could say I'm laying down bets on two squares. If I win the self-employment bet, while I don't think I'd become conservative I am quite aware that I would move right slightly. The other bet I have laid down is on the whole "workers united" thing. If I feel I can not move from wage slave to self employed, I guess that would move me way over to the left.


378 posted on 02/06/2006 10:39:08 PM PST by ClassConscious
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To: ClassConscious

Your principles should not be dictated by your position in life.


381 posted on 02/06/2006 10:40:56 PM PST by joseph20
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To: ClassConscious
The WOOBBLIES never did work out, nor did they change America.

You hate what you don't understand at all. You actually hate yourself and still are unable and unwilling to see that.

Your views are outdated, don't work, and have been a scourge to many; the ruination of nations.

No, you wont go "a little to the right", should you finally "make it"; you'll just be another cretinous LIMOUSINE LIBERAL POS.

390 posted on 02/06/2006 10:52:02 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ClassConscious
In my definition of capitalism, being my own boss would put me outside of the system of capitalism. But even if we do call that capitalism, my problem with capitalism is the existence of the relationship between a worker and a boss/employer.

sheeeesh!!! you really are confused. methinks you've confused reading with learning. First, in a (relatively) free society, everyone is 'their own boss.' No matter their endeavor, they are only renting or selling their own capital (sweat, energy, brain power, creativity, beauty, charm, etc) on a daily basis under terms they agree to. Secondly, nobody is ever their own boss unless liveing on a deserted island and being completely self sufficient to fulfill needs and desires. You're still going to have all kinds of 'bosses' telling you what and how you produce whatever it is you are selling. The only real choices you have is which of your 'capital assets' you choose to sell and whether your bosses have faces at one extreme or you only know them through the reams of regulations you must bow to at the other extreme. I think you will shortly find that your new bosses are even less personable and far more uncaring than your old bosses. That's what's going to turn you into a raving conservative.

But seriously, as though that wasn't, since you value honesty so much, you're going to have to get a whole lot more honest with yourself about how the world works and how people interact and your own issues (ref. boss/employee relationships) if you're ever going to be a productive member of any society (i.e. a successful capitalist)

397 posted on 02/06/2006 11:05:11 PM PST by dougd
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To: ClassConscious
Really, you could say I'm laying down bets on two squares.

Get away from the roulette wheel. Learn to play poker.
Being your own boss is capitalism. You're going to have the boss/worker relationship with both liberals and conservatives.

Conservative stands for limited government and government, liberal or conservative, is not your friend if you want to make it on your own.

"Workers United" is, and always has been, a suckers bet.
406 posted on 02/06/2006 11:14:29 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: ClassConscious

I hate capitolists

I was a big-time stock investor!

I was working for dot-coms

I was a lucky one who managed to jump from dot coms to Wall Street.

I started my own business

it has been profitable

it has taken a while to incorporate, open a bank account, line up wholesalers

You hate yourself.


421 posted on 02/06/2006 11:38:51 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: ClassConscious
In my definition of capitalism, being my own boss would put me outside of the system of capitalism. But even if we do call that capitalism, my problem with capitalism is the existence of the relationship between a worker and a boss/employer.

Just a thought.

What if your business gets so successful you have too much work to get done on your own? Will you hire someone and become the "evil boss" or not?

An even worse idea for you. Do you buy anything from anyone else? For example, do you buy groceries at the grocery store? If so, then you are oppressing those poor cashiers, stockboys, maintance workers, factory workers, farm workers and accountants that make that grocery store completely possible.

The problem isn't with employee/employer relations. It's with this concept you have that no one should tell you what to do. That is the attitude of a stubborn six year old, not a grown man.

516 posted on 02/07/2006 7:08:42 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: ClassConscious
"I started my own business ..."

"my problem with capitalism is the existence of the relationship between a worker and a boss/employer. "

Gak! Zot this idiot NOW!

'Progressive Movement.' semantically equal to: 'Bowel Movement.'

687 posted on 02/08/2006 12:05:58 AM PST by IYellAtMyTV (Workday Forecast--Increasing pressure towards afternoon. Rum likely by evening.)
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