IAS: Index Patient for New York's Aggressive HIV Strain Is Identified

MedPage Today ^ | July, 25, 2005 | Ed Susman

[rapture76]

(...devastated to find out they had transmitted the disease because they believed that all the people at the club were HIV-positive. )



And With this belief...We know the 2 had no need for condoms,further, if the two were doped up Like the New York man they won't remeber every pitcher & catcher at the Orgy fest.
This,and the fact that CTO1 was exspecially virulent raises the probability CTO1 & CTO2,tag team,infected more participants than the New York Man.


The intial match of the viruses did not come about due to the memories of CTO1 and 2

[jammer]

Sure. Morbidity is ALWAYS a bell curve. Some curves are higher than others, narrowing the curve (due to rapid mortality), some are lower (and may be broader), due to slower mortality. But it is always a bell curve. Ominous.

[justshutupandtakeit]

What no pity for this scum?

[justshutupandtakeit]

The Misadventures of Death Lovers.

[DBeers]

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Dr. Blick said his patients were devastated to find out they had transmitted the disease because they believed that all the people at the club were HIV-positive.

Well -- backwards thinking would seem to correlate...

[Billthedrill]

At some point the state is going to have to review its quarantine policies. I speak not as a homophobe nor as an alarmist, but clearly if known carriers of a deadly communicable disease refuse to refrain from the activity that passes it the state has a duty to act in the name of public safety. There is considerable precedent for such actions - "Typhoid" Mary Mallon was equally irresponsible and was confined, at first without trial, and repeatedly subsequently when it became clear that she was still shedding infective organisms (which she did until the day she died) and refused to engage in any line of employment but cooking, and further refused to improve her substandard personal hygiene when doing so. She was quarantined for 23 years.

This is not Nazism, it is legal, and it is absolutely within the purview of the state. The notion that homosexuals are special people deserving of protection for disastrously deadly activities is one that is opposed by responsible people both homosexual and heterosexual. There is no reason to think that there is some sort of human right that protects this behavior - there isn't.

[the lone wolf]

"What no pity for this scum?"

I must admit that, while I have no trouble "hating the sin", I am finding the "love the sinner" part rather hard to do.

These people are spreading a deadly disease, and at the same time saying it is the fault of anyone that opposes them. Just how many deaths has this sort of behavior caused?


When will they WAKE UP???

[gidget7]

I agree with you Bill, 100%! And I would imagine most people would. But how to we get it done? Everything is PC these days, including the WHO, and Congress.

[gidget7]

thousands and thousands and thousands. They will keep pushing to make their lifestyle and even these orgies, all the while trying every way possible to infect the rest of us. They are bound and determined it will not be solely a homosexual disease.

More reason to incubate, isolate, quarantine, whatever they want to call it.

[the lone wolf]

In this case, for "lifestyle" substitute deathstyle.

[grey_whiskers]

Nor is that patient's life partner, who is also infected with a similarly highly resistant strain, rapidly progressing.

Something about the choice of words here seems particularly inappropriate considering the infection which they are carrying.

Sigh. Prayers for them.

[little jeremiah]

There is so much wrong here. It's sick that someone can be said to have a "life partner" when each half of this so-called partnership apparently has devaint sex with more people in an afternoon than normal people have in 5 lifetimes.

I don't know, DBeers. What's the solution? I think stuff is just going to have to crash and burn, and the remnants will remember what many people have now forgotten.

[CGTRWK]

Ballpark annual figure would be in the low six figures. No exaggeration.

Now that they've managed to find their own strain of the disease, consider the cost of the research that will be done on that and that pricetag is now in the lower 7 figures.

It was barely a week ago that the leader of the free world, who is putatively one of ours, mentioned the goal "ending the stigma of AIDS" in the State of the Union address. Draw your own conclusions.

[little jeremiah]

Really? He said "stigma of AIDS"?

What crap. Sorry, not in a tolerant mood. What about the "stigma of syphilis"? Or the "stigma of crabs"?

Can you imagine if there was a real conservative president?

[raybbr]

Everything is PC these days, including the WHO...

Funny. I never thought of these guys as being PC.

[justshutupandtakeit]

I think we should open the bathhouses and let them wipe themselves out.

[Miss Maam]

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[rapture76]

"I think we should open the bathhouses and let them wipe themselves out."



The sewer system would be more enticing

[justshutupandtakeit]

Can you imagine the thought process that finds habituating a sex club where everyone is HIV+ to be stimulating? "Gee, everyone here has the plague lets go in."