Posted on 02/06/2006 11:02:06 AM PST by neverdem
The interesting part....this has nothing really to do with cartoons. It has to do with the Islamic agenda to take control and to become a force for Allah. The cartoons are just another excuse. The cartoons are equal to the U.S and Israel being Allies, or any incident in any other country created to give the Muslims an excuse to start a Jihad. This is the actual, non-biased reason for all of this. It's a fact.....more to come.
The mountain will soon land on Mohammed..
To be the slave of Allah was the best Mohammad could hope for.
To be the slave of Mohammad was the best a Mulism could hope for...
To be the slave of a Muslim is the best a Dhimmi (infidel)
can hope for...
Freedom from the will of Allah aka the will of Allah aka the will of Islam is slavery to evil...
Only slavery to the will of Allah,the will of Mohammade,and the will of Islam is true freedom...
Out of controversy comes fresh dialogue. Having a mullah, iman or mufti controlling people whereby the people are kept in the 9th century mode of thinking is just downright wrong. Unfortunately, these idiotic islamic ruffians with their dictatorial leadership doesn't see.
Eventually the whole world has to come to the conclusion that free speech is necessary if there is to be civilization.
To be kicked out of Reason magazine's forum is a small price to pay if it will bring enlightment to those Libertarian potheads at Reason.
This part is interesting from the Islamic Scholar:
"Muslims might have miscalculated the manner in which they handled the crisis," noted prominent Islamic scholar Abdel-Sabour Shahine, who suggested that instead of pursuing a boycott of Danish products, the Islamic world should have shown more tolerance, by focusing on promoting dialogue with the west, and educating them more about Islam. "The Qur'an ordains Muslims to engage in peaceful dialogue and use a more logical approach with those of different creeds." The prophet himself, Shahine argued, was constantly subject to offence during the first years of his prophecy in Mecca, and his reactions were so tolerant that those who initially opposed him ended up becoming Muslim.
"After all," said Shahine, "we'd rather have the Danes apologizing out of conviction, rather than because they feel threatened."
Exactly thats the whole point isnt it. Islam will have to compete in the marketplace of ideas like everyone else. At this point I am not sure of the true level of Islamic Indigation over this. At one level I understand the frustration. THe proper response whould have been to boycott products advertized in that paper not the whole country. Its becoming more apparent to me that this whole thing was started by the Saudi Govt to get the fact ,that their mismangement of the piligramge to mecca again resulted in hundreds of deaths people out of the media limelight . The State dept should have stepped in then with a quiet call once this stuff starting appearing in Saudi newspapers.
To be perfectly fair, both the Old and New Testament consistently refer to believers as slaves of God.
"After all," said Shahine, "we'd rather have the Danes apologizing out of conviction, rather than because they feel threatened."
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But "threatened" is good enough......
This whole business with the "good" moderate muslims and the radical islamofascists is just another game of good cop bad cop on a worldwide scale....
I have never in my life heard one scripture that refers to believers as "slaves of God". Perhaps you can quote book, chapter, and verse.
Muslims wrestling with pigs? How culturally insensitive.
Behead him! Infidel!
funny... I'd rather have the Danes reiterate the "insults" out of conviction than apologize for any reason
Romans 6:22 (NIV) "But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life."
yas sir, very soon.......
That's an interesting testimony....:) This political correctness crap is kicking our butts here.....Never heard of the forum. But you are right, when you plant the seed and go.....
Bull. The Bible says we are to serve others but it is a willing service that comes from our hearts....there is a huge difference between slavery and willingly serving others.
The noun for "slave" occurs elsewhere--St Paul begins the epistle to the Romans by calling himself "Paul, a slave of Christ Jesus..." using the noun doulos, the regular word for "slave." (The King James version has "servant," which is ambiguous.) Similarly, the epistle to the Philippians begins "Paul and Timothy, slaves of Christ Jesus..."
There are other examples in the epistles, including some not by Paul (such as James and Second Peter).
Paul even says that he is speaking to us in human terms to get his point across in verse 19.
Romans 6:19 "I speak to you in human terms because of the weakness of the flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness."
Sort of changes the meaning when taken context does it not?!?
I don't know Hebrew, but I have a Langenscheidt's Pocket Hebrew Dictionary to the Old Testament (Hebrew/English) which transliterates Obadiah's name as 'obadyahu. The root word is transliterated as 'ebed (spelled with the letters ayin, beth, daleth), with the meanings "labourer," "servant," "slave," "bondsman," "subject"; "worshipper." (The dictionary also uses long and short marks and accents that I can't insert.)
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