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Posted on 02/06/2006 6:08:53 AM PST by ken5050
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To: bonfire
Biden: "Let me be very spec-ise."
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posted on
02/06/2006 8:35:15 AM PST
by
maggief
(and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
To: Peach
Biden trying to trap Gonzales....
To: PogySailor
Here's a new spin I heard at the 11:00 news break on the radio: Some Democrats are complaining the Bush administration tricked them into taking the enemies side. What part of - You're either with us or against us - did they not understand?
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posted on
02/06/2006 8:35:48 AM PST
by
vollmond
(Careful with that axe, Eugene!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
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posted on
02/06/2006 8:36:00 AM PST
by
bonfire
To: bonfire
Biden: I haven't heard NSA say to intel cmte that we're binding ourselves (?) under 12333 as well as other statutes. Can you assure us that has been done?
Are you confident that you know the detail with which program is being conducted; that you personally can assure us that only AQ or terrorists calling Americans are being wiretapped?
Gonazles: No. But we have safeguards in place that what the president has authorized is that procedures are being followed.
Biden: This is why the Intel Committee needs absolute guarnteed assurance that no American is being wiretapped unless they are in contact with AQ. (Finger pointing and highly agitated)
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posted on
02/06/2006 8:36:19 AM PST
by
Peach
(Islam is an army disguised as a religion (Freeper Hoosier-Daddy))
To: Pukin Dog
He wants the media to draw inference. And for the NYT to print it.
606
posted on
02/06/2006 8:36:34 AM PST
by
tiredoflaundry
(I'll admit it , I'm a Snow Flake !(Snoq) The rest of my tagline redacted by court order.)
To: Pukin Dog
607
posted on
02/06/2006 8:36:45 AM PST
by
Peach
(Islam is an army disguised as a religion (Freeper Hoosier-Daddy))
To: Peach
Gawd, you are truly amazing!
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posted on
02/06/2006 8:36:57 AM PST
by
maggief
(and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Biden wants "absolute guarantee" no American citizen is being subjected to monitoring under penalty of perjury...
Trying to lay a trap to get Gonzales and others...
609
posted on
02/06/2006 8:37:06 AM PST
by
Gritty
(“A court of law is not meant to be a field of battle” – Mark Steyn)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Absolutely. Biden already knows the answer, and he wants the Intelligence committee to put people under oath to swear against it, or leak that it is happening. Purjury trap, all the way.
610
posted on
02/06/2006 8:37:09 AM PST
by
Pukin Dog
(Sans Reproache)
To: All
Leahy asking for a letter to be made part of the record....not sure what that is about....
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Biden is not smart enough to trap someone. These Senators are not cream of the crop lawyers. They are simply reading ideas someone handed them.
To: bonfire
Biden was pointing his finger directly at AG Gonzalez. I would have loved to grab that finger and twisted it every way but loose.
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posted on
02/06/2006 8:37:35 AM PST
by
old_sage_says
("Man does not live by his words alone, despite the fact that he sometimes has to eat them" A S)
To: Peach
Kyl: From initial concerns about program itself now we're hearing new concerns.
I doubt anyone would be upset with this program if polled today. A little humility is called for on this committee before we accuse the president of a crime.
If our hearings with Alito and Roberts demonstrated anything it's that there are smart lawyers in Washington besides those who sit on this committee. LOL
614
posted on
02/06/2006 8:38:13 AM PST
by
Peach
(Islam is an army disguised as a religion (Freeper Hoosier-Daddy))
To: Peach
Biden: This is why the Intel Committee needs absolute guarnteed assurance that no American is being wiretapped unless they are in contact with AQ. (Finger pointing and highly agitated)I believe General Hayden has indicated that they sometimes pick up things that don't qualify and they "minimize" them. Biden will get no such assurance.
615
posted on
02/06/2006 8:38:18 AM PST
by
Bahbah
(An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
To: bonfire
His time is up .....in a lot of ways/.......
To: YaYa123
Senator Feingold is showing his butt already and the hearing has just begun. Boggles my mind why people would be surprised Feingold is acting like he is. He voted against the Patriot Act of 2001, and voted against extending it 5 more weeks.
He's as repugnant as that smarmy Harry Reid.
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posted on
02/06/2006 8:38:25 AM PST
by
BigSkyFreeper
(Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
To: old_sage_says
Kyle just took Leahy to the woodshed!
618
posted on
02/06/2006 8:38:37 AM PST
by
MEG33
(GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
To: pbrown
Sorry. I was just speaking for myself.
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posted on
02/06/2006 8:38:38 AM PST
by
Krodg
To: bonfire
This is idiotic on the part of Biden. There is NO standard required by criminal or national security investigations that imposes ABSOLUTE PERFECTION on the part of an investigator. Reasonable suspician, or even proboble cause are forms of good faith belief; they are not forms of omniscience, which the 4th Amendment never requires.
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