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Wily coyotes are at home in N.J. [Send school into lockdown]
North Jersey Media ^ | 2-5-06 | JUSTO BAUTISTA

Posted on 02/05/2006 3:22:11 PM PST by SJackson

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To: nightdriver

Since the sheeple of the PRNJ regularly elect nanny wussies who are much too frightened of allowing the citizens they represent to carry handguns, the coyotes may very well overcome. On the positive side, they do represent a possible solution to the deer "problem" and to the chronic overpopulation by small, expensive to educate childen


41 posted on 02/05/2006 5:31:12 PM PST by Postman
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To: sam I am
Last week I started taking my gun with me when I am outside. We live in the mountains and I know they were here first.

I live in a city and I always carry when walking my little Pomeranian – and most times when I am out. We have had large stray dogs aggressively charge us when out – so far my cane (solid aluminum billet shaft, solid brass head) has worked to fend them off. I have not yet felt the need to use my .45 in this congested apartment complex – but I would if I had to.
42 posted on 02/05/2006 5:33:57 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: sam I am

When I walk my dog at night, I carry a tear gas cannister, a very sharp knife and a weighted baton. The nannie wussies like Senator Loretta Wussie haven't yet made these illegal.


43 posted on 02/05/2006 5:36:02 PM PST by Postman
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To: SJackson

We have a cabin in Potter County PA, right up against the New York state border, and we've been hearing coyote packs up there for several years, now. It is an eerie thing to hear them howling on a moonlit night...

We live down near Philadelphia, and I was startled to see a lone coyote in a relatively remote section of Valley Forge Park a couple of weeks ago - in broad daylight. I didn't think they had migrated this far. But we've had the odd bear get this far south in years gone by, so I guess it's possible.


44 posted on 02/05/2006 5:39:35 PM PST by Wife of D28Man
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To: dalereed
"They aren't threatened by developmnet, they move into newly developed areas because of the easy pickings off the stupid new residents that leave their cats and dogs run outside."

There are two reasons for poor displaced coyotes and deer standing in the middle of town looking for food.

There are now huge areas where hunting is not allowed. Before WWII, urban areas were a small percentage of the total real estate and almost every farmer and his sons hunted. So most of the land was hunted.

Now huge areas of suburbia equate to game preserves...no hunting allowed.

So rather than displacing game, we are preserving game in a way that was not possible 60 years ago.
45 posted on 02/05/2006 5:48:32 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: tiki
What coyotes kill very often is family dogs.

I live in Nevada, prime coyote country. When Californians move in and buy a house on the edge of town, their "outdoor" cats quickly disappears--coyote dinner.

46 posted on 02/05/2006 5:58:30 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: SJackson

Coyotes have been seen in downtown Detroit. They are fairly common in the far western suburbs.


47 posted on 02/05/2006 6:02:06 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: School of Rational Thought

Along with a few Seahawks.

Sorry, couldnt resist,


48 posted on 02/05/2006 6:13:09 PM PST by 76834 (There's nothing wrong with sobriety in moderation.)
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To: dalereed

That depends a lot on what sort of dog you have running outside. A mature southern Georgia "catch" dog has no problems (a variant of the American Bulldog).

Another animal that is rough on coyotes is a mule or a donkey. They'll stomp a coyote or a snake into the ground.

Coyotes can dang well be eradicated, just not in one night. Following this recipe about ten times over the course of a couple of weeks will work. Don't let up once you start. Bait them up at night with a tethered live chicken or two, an electronic rabbit squaller, some red spotlights and four or five buddies who are decent rifle shots and......

Oh wait. This is New Jersey.


49 posted on 02/05/2006 6:19:26 PM PST by 308MBR (The only time four doors look cool are when they are on two cars.)
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To: 308MBR

"That depends a lot on what sort of dog you have running outside."

City dwellers that move to the new suburbs with their city raised and coddled pets is equivalent to a tethered live chicken, dead meat!


50 posted on 02/05/2006 6:25:12 PM PST by dalereed
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To: 308MBR

There is a fellow near me that catches coyotes in live traps, similar to those used by the dog wardens.

He baits them with a cat. He puts the cat in a small wire cage inside the larger cage.

Coyotes can't resist cats.


51 posted on 02/05/2006 6:26:37 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: 308MBR

There is a fellow near me that catches coyotes in live traps, similar to those used by the dog wardens.

He baits them with a cat. He puts the cat in a small wire cage inside the larger cage.

Coyotes can't resist cats.


52 posted on 02/05/2006 6:28:42 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: 308MBR
I had a mature coyote run trot through my driveway one night a while back. He just stopped, sniffed in my direction, and went on his way. Shortly after that we started finding dead rabbits, or pieces thereof, around our neighborhood.

The feral cats have all disappeared as well. Lately the doves are starting to 'explode'. It's the coyotes I tell the neighbors so don't let fluffy or muffin outside unattended.

When my pug gets his excersize theres a .22 revolver in my pocket loaded with CB caps. Nice and quiet, won't penetrate an exterior wall, but they will penetrate coyote hide. Concealed carry is illegal here, but if I don't admit to carrying concealed there ain't much they can do about it.

Let 'em do ballistics on a varmint if'n they want to.

The most they can get me for is discharging a firearm in city limits and that's a misdemeanor. State law says I can kill an animal attacking a pet or livestock, so screw 'em.

L

53 posted on 02/05/2006 6:36:36 PM PST by Lurker (In God I trust. Everybody else shows me their hands.)
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To: SJackson
f you encounter a coyote:

Stop. Don't run. Stand still, and let it go on its way.

Give it plenty of space.

Never stare an animal down. It considers that a threat.

Considering that most coyotes aren't much bigger than foxes, I don't see how they're being treated as such a booger. I doubt that any coyote who encountered a human (an adult, anyway) would stay around very long.

54 posted on 02/05/2006 6:44:59 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ken yo'vedu khol-'oyeveykha, HaShem!)
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To: SJackson
>>Never stare an animal down. It considers that a threat. <<

In New Mexico I have never seen a coyote that would let you catch their eyes with yours for over a half-second. A split second later, if you were lucky, all you would see was a small dustdevil fast moving away from you a hundred yards out.

Muleteam1

55 posted on 02/05/2006 6:48:57 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: Zionist Conspirator

15 lbs is big for a red fox. 12 lbs is more like it. They look larger because they have a lot of hair and the hair fluffs.

A coyote that is equivalent to the 15 lb. red fox will weight 40 lbs.

But equally signigicant, the red fox is a loner. Except when the vixen is teaching her cubs to hunt or during breeding season, you will almost never see two fox toghether.

Coyotes on the other hand will pack up into large packs. Four or more 40 lb agressive animals with long sharp teeth can do a lot of damage.

Also fox are afraid of almost everything. Coyotes are much more clever about what they can get away with.


56 posted on 02/05/2006 6:55:37 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: woodbutcher
I guess I'm just a left-wing animal lover. I only know that I'd rather run into a coyote on a walk than a bear or a mountain lion. And I doubt that cowboys ever lost much sleep over them other than worrying that they might snag some calves.

I hear coyotes here almost every night. And so long as they don't bother our cats (coyotes most definitely do eat small household pets) then I don't mind them. I'm thrilled to see almost any wild animal (with the couple of exceptions mentioned above). I think it would be thrilling to see a bobcat sometime.

57 posted on 02/05/2006 7:10:44 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ken yo'vedu khol-'oyeveykha, HaShem!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The coyotes we have here in central Alabama are considerably larger than a fox. In fact, some of them are way more than 40 pounds. I have a feeling that they are cross breeding with wolf hybrids that people let loose. We shot one last year that was 70 pounds. It was definitely a coyote. They reek havoc with livestock. I've got two Great Danes to watch after me when I'm outside doing chores.


58 posted on 02/05/2006 7:12:08 PM PST by Himyar
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To: Himyar
The coyotes we have here in central Alabama are considerably larger than a fox. In fact, some of them are way more than 40 pounds. I have a feeling that they are cross breeding with wolf hybrids that people let loose. We shot one last year that was 70 pounds. It was definitely a coyote. They reek havoc with livestock. I've got two Great Danes to watch after me when I'm outside doing chores.

It is quite possible that they are some kind of hybrid, or perhaps coyotes just grow larger than I have assumed. But my old college biology professor has also described coming suddenly on a coyote while walking (it was catching grasshoppers), and if he considered himself in any danger he didn't indicate it.

59 posted on 02/05/2006 7:18:16 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ken yo'vedu khol-'oyeveykha, HaShem!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

So your an animal lover huh? How 'bout squirrels? Coyotes love them too! Rabbits? Coyotes love them. Wild turkeys? Yep, coyotes really, really, love them. Their eggs too. Ducks? You guessed it coyotes love them. I could go on.

I'm from Alabama, lived here all my life. Hunted all my life from 8 yrs on. Never saw a coyote till about 20 yrs ago. Let these critters move in to an area and don't control them and there goes your game. Don't think they'll take down a deer? Think again. EVERYONE who hunts anything HATES coyotes.


60 posted on 02/05/2006 7:22:53 PM PST by saleman
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