Posted on 02/05/2006 10:53:35 AM PST by cinives
Actually my experience is firmly in the friend camp. The rest is my observation of my friends who don't get friended much. I agree with you, just stating my observation that Dr. Laura is wrong that a guy has to only be there. It is really a complete switch of the traditional way you think of dating and such working. It is the guy who has to play hard to get. Apparently nothing turns a woman off more than a guy who is interested in her.
You didn't read the last half of my post, chump.
Ah, OK. I misread you as saying that was how you found relationships. That trick never works.
"You didn't read the last half of my post, chump."
I read it. In fact, I noticed the comments on MySpace in particular. I don't hang out at MySpace, trolling the profiles. I'm too old for teenage girls, you see. They don't interest me, except as kids.
You're still trying to make the point that most kids are screwed up. I'm saying they are not. Go talk to today's kids in 15 years. See how they did.
Yes, the Greek culture at times did corrupt the youth. So does every culture. That's when it's time to tighten standards.
I have never really gotten into myspace, but on Facebook it certainly doesn't appear that most college kids are mainlining heroin and reading Sylvia Plath while they cry themselves to sleep or anything.
I'm making the point that your pics don't mean squat. You can't judge people by surface appearance. There are a lot of kids who have some real problems. Myspace is a good indication of that.
I think the author of this article is overstating it, and you are understating it bigtime.
I'm a part of "youth subculture", I have tattoos and piercing, and I can say with authority that it is nothing like this at all.
10 to 1 that this guy wrote the whole essay never having gone to a club, or interviewed a single member of the "culture" (as if we're a single entity, hungrily waiting for your children's souls) that he tries with such laughable hyperbole to demonize.
I picture a pinch-faced, sweaty old man, nervously clacking away at a keyboard, certain that the Sodomite hordes are about to break down his door at any moment.
Exactly my thought as I typed that post. No mere coincidence in the rise of liberal culture at just this time but rather a cause and effect. And the Bolshevik influence continues today...
Isn't getting AIDS a way to get Social Security Disability? An extra $1,500 a month - for 50 to 60 years - can give a nice boost to a nightclub life.
In the old days (1980s people died of AIDS) - now they're only sick enough to collect the money Americans have been putting into social security. But not so sick as to spoil the fun.
Yes, they call themselves "progressives" now.
The Rolling Stone story has been widely disputed. Many of those interviewed said they were misquoted etc.
"Kids!
I don't know what's wrong with these kids today!
Kids!
Who can understand anything they say?
Kids!
They a disobedient, disrespectful oafs!
Noisy, crazy, dirty, lazy, loafers!
While we're on the subject:
Kids!
You can talk and talk till your face is blue!
Kids!
But they still just do what they want to do!
Why can't they be like we were,
Perfect in every way?
What's the matter with kids today?
Kids!
I've tried to raise him the best I could
Kids! Kids!
Laughing, singing, dancing, grinning, morons!
And while we're on the subject!
Kids! They are just impossible to control!
Kids! With their awful clothes and their rock an' roll!
Why can't they dance like we did
What's wrong with Sammy Caine?
What's the matter with kids today!
I dunno. I have a lot of tattoos and generally wear dark colors. I'm reasonably successful at what I do, I'm polite and good mannered, and I'm able to relate to either "world" equally well.
Telling punk rockers that they are evil because of the way that they keep thier bodies is really not much differant then insisting all woman wear a burka, but that's just my opinion, and I suppose having a lot of tattoos makes one relatively tolarent to other people's looks.
I totally agree that there are radicially differant social groups in America today. But I disagree that one is "Good" and one is "Evil" and that you can tell someone's morality by looking at them any more then you can tell if someone is "Good" or "Evil" by the color of thier skin.
I do understand where you are coming from. A lot of people, especially from earlier generations, have much more traditional views of how people should look. Please do understand that some of those freaky tattooed and pierced folks have hearts of gold and have just chosen differant social circles and face differant challenges as a result.
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