Posted on 02/05/2006 5:16:31 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
Given the patterns of personal savings and debt I'm always amused by this grave concern about government debt. This isn't to say the concern isn't out there but on the surface it's an amazing disconnect.
I agree with you 100%, Mo1.
The staunch conservatives I know in my life are ticked at Republicans and when I've asked why, the number one issue is spending. The number two issue is they are tired of our guys acting like doormats and letting the left lie with impunity.
But anyone who tries and tell you that spending isn't a problem with real people is living in dreamland.
This really is crap. Pollsters say they use more Democrats than Republicans because that reflects the country makeup. I don't believe that anymore. I am thinking there are more self described Republicans now than Democrats. Do you have any statistics on it?
Funniest thing. I am five years older than my husband. I have lied about my age for so long that now I'm younger than he is.
Dam ...do we owe ya money for that?
Thanks, but there are other FReepers that would do far better than I. I would love to see a FReeper on that show, too!
Don't have statistics per se, but just found this as an example:
How To Rig A Poll (or, Breaking Down The Latest AP/Ipsos Poll)
www.anklebitingpundits.com ^ | January 6, 2006 | bulldogpundit
Posted on 01/07/2006 2:15:55 PM PST by new yorker 77
How To Rig A Poll (or, Breaking Down The Latest AP/Ipsos Poll) Posted by bulldogpundit on Friday, 06 January 2006 (17:07:43) EST Contributed by bulldogpundit
You'll likely be hearing orgasmic Democrats and the MSM crowing about this AP Ipsos poll which has the headline "Voters Seem More Ready To End GOP Control Of Congress". The poll shows the following:Quote: Wrong Track - 65%/Right Track - 32%
Bush Approval Rating - 59% Disapprove/40% Approve
Who Do You Want To Control Congress - 49% - Democrats/36%- Republicans
Sounds bad, huh? Well, as we've said before you (and the GOP leaders) shouldn't use these polls as any kind of indicator as to what could happen in 2006, which is certainly how the MSM will spin it.
But here's what you won't see in the news stories. - the demography of the poll respondents
First, only 81% of respondents were even eligible to vote, and there's no indication of how many of them actually went to the polls in 2004..
1. Party Leanings - The poll is slanted 52-40% towards Democrats, even though the voters in the 2004 election were split evenly at 37% between Republicans and Democrats.
2. Religion - Next, a whopping 19% of respondents had "no" religion, while in 2004 only 10% of voters had "no" religion, and they voted overwhelmingly for Kerry (+36%).
3. Age of Respondents In this poll 31% of the respondents were between 18-34, even though the 18-29 year olds (a slightly smaller demo) only made up 17% of the electorate in the 2004 election. I think it's pretty safe to say that by including 30-34 year olds that number would have come close to the IPSOS sample.
4. Income Level of Respondents - This one is amazing. In this poll 15% of respondents made under $15,000 per year. In 2004, only 8% of voters were in this income bracket, and voted 63-36% for Kerry.
5. Marital Status - In this poll, only 56% of respondents are married. In 2004, 63% of voters were married, and voted 57-42% for Bush.
6. Geography - In this poll, only 17% of respondents were from "rural" areas. In 2004, 25% of voters were from rural areas, and voted 57-42% for Bush.
7. Race - In this poll, there were 71% white respondents and 12% Hispanic respondents. In 2004, 77% of voters were white, and only 8% Hispanic. Bush won the white vote 58-41% and Kerry the Hispanic vote 53-44%.
We're not saying the GOP is going to have an easy time in 2006, but when you read slanted polls like this you really wonder if the purpose of conducting it was to get good results, or push an agenda. Given the history of the AP/Ipsos poll, my bet is on the latter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1553783/posts
What about the non conservatives though; in my experience in the UK all most people are interested in what can their politician do for them or their area regardless of what it costs. Hence why often they will vote for a Politican who is opposed to their view point if they deliver on the above.
Here are 2 polls:
Rasmussen Poll: Bush 50% Approval; NBC Poll: Bush 39% Approval
January 30, 2006
Posted on 01/30/2006 4:14:28 PM PST by new yorker 77
The Libs lie to tear down Bush.
Compare these Polls.
Rasmussen Poll: Bush Job Approval: 50%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm
NBC Poll: Bush Job Approval 39%
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/poll20060131.pdf
Why don't you start a thread to get some to enter?
I think its a great idea, but I've never started a vanity thread.
I'll betcha can handle that ?
Sorry, off subject. Rod, do you remember the other reporters re: Plame case that wrote before Pincus? I know Corn and Vendenghe, an italian and someone else. The unsealed (yet redacted), Miller docs are up and state 4 testified... we know three and I want to figure out which other one (redacted) could have testified. Where can you go to find the subpeonas?
People might be talking about it, but it is the other district's pork they want cut.
I believe it was Russert that interviewed DeLay...when DeLay was questioned about earmarks, he told Timmy that he just rode into town on one.
This is the latest COngressional Budget Office report on budget deficits (in .pdf) and expenditures since 1962. Our current congress is not spending extraodinarily..
http://www.cbo.gov/budget/historical.pdf
Compare the %GDP amounts..
I doubt that non-conservatives are very happy with the things Republicans in Congress are spending money on, which is primarily the military.
So a lot of conservatives aren't happy with the spending by Republicans and non-conservatives aren't happy either. That doesn't bode well for Republicans and they'd be wise to reign in their spending habits.
Not that I think the spending issue will move Republicans toward voting for Democrats, but it might not move them at all to go out and actually vote. We need those broken glass Republicans again!
As per your number one: 1. Party Leanings - The poll is slanted 52-40% towards Democrats, even though the voters in the 2004 election were split evenly at 37% between Republicans and Democrats.
This conforms to the national party figures even though we know many Democrats are voting Republican.
For what it's worth, I usually add 5% in favor of the Republican in most polls, plus the margin of error and that seems to be more accurate that the poll itself. Especially for any poll showing a plus or minus greater than 3%.
Absolutely and prayers! Thanks for the great posts today
Like when Doug spoke at the Presidents rally and asked him (paraphrasing)if he spanked Little Tommy Daschle before sending him to his room. The look on Dubya's face was priceless.
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