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To: OpusatFR
These are the issues that a democrat will demagogue his way both into the White House & back into control of Congress. Of course after doing this they will not only 'socialize' the economy to 'protect' the American worker they will 'socialize' the culture to remove his 'prejudices' !
I consider my self pretty much a free marketeer. I don't believe the State can do economic planning & direction and accomplish anything more then the permanent beggaring of society.
However having said that our long term national safety is heavily dependent on science & technology. If we are going to up the ceilings for H-1B visas then we must introduce effective incentives for US students to go into math & science( & engineering) & for US companies to hire them.
I don't know if treating such as science,math & engineering talent as a form of 'intellectual products' and putting a customs duty on it is the solution. I do know that being too 'protective' will produce a trashy product for example 1970 cars !
Before anything dramatic is done to the H-1B visas education reforms must be in place such as destroying the NEA, forcing colleges & universities to put 'rigor' back into their curriculum. (First step there would be to force schools to drop the pseudo-degrees & programs !)
I guess I haven't really offered a solution, because I still don't know what the real state of the problem is.
I do know from personal experience US grad schools in science, math & engineering are 75% foreign. It was that way when I was in grad school in the 1980s. I have gone back & recruited at schools and talked to both undergraduates & graduate students. The answer I get back from under-grads (US citizens) as to why they aren't going to grad school is they have a mountain of school debt to pay off ! Now that my 17 yr old daughter is looking at colleges that has really hit home ! Lets take a worst case scenario of a student attending a top-notch private college, I have a hard time understanding how a school can justify putting a student $160000 in debt at then end of his/her 4 yrs. Talk about displaying social irresponsibility ! The most horrible capitalist robber baron doesn't do that !
267 posted on 02/04/2006 8:54:18 AM PST by Reily (Reilly (Dr Doom))
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To: Reily
If we are going to up the ceilings for H-1B visas then we must introduce effective incentives for US students to go into math & science( & engineering) & for US companies to hire them. I don't know if treating such as science,math & engineering talent as a form of 'intellectual products' and putting a customs duty on it is the solution.

Charging American students the same price for education as students in China or India have to pay would be a good start. (scholarships and college debt forgiveness?)

432 posted on 02/04/2006 7:46:08 PM PST by A. Pole (In 2001 top 5% owned 60% of national wealth, while bottom 60% owned 4%)
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