Posted on 02/04/2006 4:38:34 AM PST by Tyche
That's exactly what's going on, our own government is busy working to find the cheapest possible foreign labor for corporations while telling American citizens you're on your own.
This may be a way off subject but there is an undenialble connection so what Bush must do is, as President put America first in every case irregardless of how unpopular it may seem to the world first crowd at home or abroad and not allow himself to be at all influenced by the globalist's view!
I believe God will continue to honor this nation's watchcare over Israel because of His love for Israel and His unchangeable desire for boundaries He has set for all things, be they spiritual or physical(temporal),ie; the absolute indivisibility of the land of the Jews from time immemorial even before the foundation of the world.
Be not deceived for God is not mocked for whatsoever a man(or a nation)soweth so shall he(it)reap!
Yes, believe it or not God will keep His promise to Israel which is the only country and people He will caused to survive, as a nation, His wrath and judgements on the world and its inhabitants which are inescapable!
The GOP deserves to lose if they keep endorsing bum stuff like this. I might just vote third party in 2008 unless they wise up and wise up fast. I know we are taking a chance of really going to Hell on this one but when you look at it, maybe this is the wake up call that is needed but it is a shame that a lot of innocents will get hurt over this, economically and perhaps militarily. I know the Democrats are not our friends but I have to ask if the Republicans are as well.
No I don't.
It's ok for the government to help corporations find cheap labor but when it comes American citizens they need to butt out.
Where did I say that?
This is no longer the GOP of Lincoln, McKinley and Coolidge . .
In too many ways, it is exactly that.
(And I wouldn't boast about all the good things Lincoln did in certain parts of the country, or to certain Republicans who know better.)
. . who saw unrestricted free trade for what it was.
And what exactly is it that worries you? The "free" part or the "trade" part?
Or is it something else?
However, if the info and data is correct, why is that an issue?
Did you real MY post with the cited url's?
My numbers and info are also credited, and I got them from CONSERVATIVE sites like NRO.
I know info is fudgeable...and statistics lie because statisticians lie...but at least argue the facts like I pointed out...the DELIBERATE devaluing of jobs and wages in America in order to outsource/justify Illegal Infiltration/increase the H-1B visas from CERTAIN countries that we are bribing to play ball with us economically and Politically.
Can you dispute that Americans have become Third Class Citizens in their own Country?
If you try, remember...GWB's Shamnesty plan says that Illegals are more valuable than Americans...and goes against between 80 and 85% rejection of his plans by the American people (depending on which poll you read).
That is the arrogance of the Ruling Eee-lites, and as Illegals are more valuable for their votes (this is from Rove AND Bush!), where does that leave the average American citizen?
Failed President bump.
Lincoln was only one of many Republicans of old who were not sold on the ideals of unrestricted free trade, that's why it's important whether you like him or not to point that out. It goes back to the principles of the party.
Where did I say that?
It doesn't matter if you say it directly it still gets said in so many words when you advocate for the type of free trade we're seeing today.
I agree with your earlier statement the federal government should stay out of the business of being an employment agency as much as possible but if they're going to get involved at all I'd rather they consumed their time helping Americans find good paying jobs instead of working feverishly to set up free trade agreements with third world countries while at the same time importing record numbers of low wage immigrants to work the jobs that are left.
So many have been saying it for the last few years and they're correct, this is all going to come back and bite the GOP big-time.
I think you are making this one up...
I've learned long time ago that no matter what links are posted the free traders will find fault with it. They can be from conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly it doesn't matter. The facts never get disputed it's just the messenger they seem focused on.
You really are refusing to see reality. I cannot do anything I want to my home other than cosmetic changes without the bank's and the town's approval. What is so hard to understand about that?
Yes you own it.
No. I don't. I have a mortgage. The bank owns the home till I pay off the note.
What is it about this concept that you can't grasp?
What a moron.
The horror. Members of a conservative website questioning the veracity of sources.
Have you done any studies in American industry to back that up. Where I work entry level people still make $9/hour. Which, in some cases, is actually less than it was ten years ago. The others that have gotten raises have not kept up with inflation.
You really do live in a world driven by numbers you see on the internet - not reality.
And you prefer the anti-business, anti-free-trade rhetoric of a Richard Gephardt over the nominal free-trade policies of the Bush administration?
Perhaps you're right. If enough Republicans join with the populists and zenophobes and know-nothings and stir up fear among the blue-collar voters (who are not totally in the Democrats' camp, as the teachers are) and make a big enough stink about real and imagined jobs being lost to H-1B visas, illegal immigration, outsourcing, insourcing, downsizing -- and, don't forget, it's all George W. Bush's fault! -- the dishonest Dems really could have a chance to retake the Congress.
Sadly, most Americans are as ignorant of basic economics as they are of nuclear physics. Democrats more so, Republicans only slightly less so.
Most of us know the difference between legitimate questioning of posted links and patterns of simply attacking the messenger rather than confronting what's being said.
What does being conservative have to do with being thankful? I am thankful for the things I have. It doesn't mean that disagreeing with Bush about his open borders policy is not conservative. In fact, I think it is very conservative.
People live in reality. There are hard times coming unless the policies of this administration are changed vis-a-vis immigration, both legal and illegal, and trade policies which are one-sided. It would take decades to truly level the playing field with those foreign countries and in the meantime Americans will suffer. Not all but those in the middle class will. The lower classes will be taken care of by your taxes. The middle class will be left hanging in the breeze.
I think much of this new GOP are ex Dems who jumped ship during the Clinton years when they saw the writing on the wall. I remember those numbers then being heralded by the GOP as indicative of a political sea change but those sheer numbers also changed the face of the party.
Regarding sheer numbers, can we think of any other analogies?
Speaking of patterns, why do ostensible protectionists post from sources such as E.P.I., Common Dreams, and various Nader-affiliates? Personally, I think it's simple intellectual laziness . . . and if somebody chooses to post something by a former Clinton economic advisor that they lifted from the website of the only true socialist in Congress, you'd better darn be sure I'll point it out. Again and again.
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