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To: sangrila

Not exactly. What I said was that since the Civil War, the country that was founded by our founding fathers has been slowly but surely chipped away. When today we are getting very close to a socialist/communist government. Why do you think liberals love Lincoln so much, ever thought of that? It's because of him that they are allowed to do what they want to do to this country.


44 posted on 02/03/2006 9:16:27 PM PST by libertarianben (Looking for sanity and his hard to find cousin common sense)
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To: libertarianben

I agree about the nation heading in a socialist direction. I disagree about everything else. If you want to blame someone for the socialist element in the government, you might want to start with FDR. I think FDR did do what he had to in many ways, and the subsequent democrats just failed to modify or discontinue the programs that were no longer relevant. LBJ is the president I would point to for creating the worst of these socialist programs. He has plenty of company though in all branches of government. Lincoln would probably be considered more conservative than any politician is, or would at least ever admit to being in modern American politics.


45 posted on 02/03/2006 9:28:55 PM PST by sangrila
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