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Postal killer acted irrational years before attack (Pic)
MSNBC ^ | 2/3/2005 | MSNBC Staff

Posted on 02/03/2006 6:07:00 AM PST by xsrdx

MSNBC staff and news service reports

Updated: 7:08 p.m. ET Feb. 1, 2006

Long before former postal employee Jennifer Sanmarco went on a suicidal rampage inside a mail processing plant in Santa Barbara, killing six people there and a seventh elsewhere, acquaintances and others took note of her odd behavior, a spiral of bizarre acts that began at least two years ago.

A former plant worker said the attacker had made racist comments in the past, and at least six of the victims were minorities, but investigators have refused to discuss a motive in the slayings.

But interviews with officials and others in New Mexico, Sanmarco's home state, to which she returned in 2004 after she lost her job at the mail facility, paint a picture of an unpredictable woman.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
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To: xsrdx
Jennifer Wayne Sanmarco?

I thought "Wayne" was for serial killers, and "Lee" was for workplace shooters....

21 posted on 02/03/2006 6:22:33 AM PST by r9etb
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To: SittinYonder

And I was thinking how "normal" she looks.


22 posted on 02/03/2006 6:29:15 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: r9etb
Jennifer Wayne Sanmarco?

I thought "Wayne" was for serial killers, and "Lee" was for workplace shooters....

Hmmm...then when is "Ray" used?

23 posted on 02/03/2006 6:29:43 AM PST by JMK (One of the lucky few -- escaped from NJ during the Florio years!)
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To: xsrdx

Hormone Rage?


24 posted on 02/03/2006 6:30:12 AM PST by Global2010 (IV steroids kill.)
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To: kajingawd

B nice.


25 posted on 02/03/2006 6:31:27 AM PST by Global2010 (IV steroids kill.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
LOL!

The old Paul Hogan... 'grab'em-in-the-crotch' would tell 'ya 'fer sure.

26 posted on 02/03/2006 6:32:21 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: r9etb
LMAO!

It's sooooooo confusing!

27 posted on 02/03/2006 6:34:21 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: RKV

So sorry for your loss.


OTOH You can't lock up 3/4 of the country.

May You Fimd some Peace to Greive loss of a Loved One,


28 posted on 02/03/2006 6:36:51 AM PST by Global2010 (Prayer's upward for a special freind.)
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To: RKV
The real issue here folks, is that the media, the courts and the ACLU/liberal establishment won't let the legislatures of this country pass laws to lock mentally ill people up - for their own sake and for that of the rest of us.

Good point. And I'm sorry for your loss.

29 posted on 02/03/2006 6:39:54 AM PST by r9etb
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To: RKV
This isn't about gun control, or gun safe workplaces

I'm sorry for your friend.

I think it is, in some respects, about gun control, though. If the second amendment were honored by our governments and people carried guns with them, someone might've been able to shoot back.

However, your point is also valid. To cut costs, states are closing down mental facilities and turning these people loose - many of them to get government jobs.

30 posted on 02/03/2006 6:44:22 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: JMK; All
Hmmm...then when is "Ray" used?

The Fran's Market murderers: Clarence Ray Allen and Billy Ray Hamilton.

31 posted on 02/03/2006 6:48:31 AM PST by dighton
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To: xsrdx
An all too typical scenario at some postal facilities. I did more than 20 years as a letter carrier before my second life as an author. We had a number of nutjobs in our station, some who eventually went "postal" and were either carried out on a strecher after making lame attempts at suicide or taken out in handcuffs by cops or postal inspectors.

The real problem was that everyone, including the foremen, knew these people were unstable, and chose to ignore it. Better to have a crazy man or woman with a sack on their shoulder than have to find someone to do some overtime while a new, untrained substitute was brought in.

Carriers were faced with routes that were adjusted to simpler conditions of years ago, while new houses and apartments continued to be built. Lots of time-sensitive "junk mail," the life blood of postal revenue, came in day after day as did magazines and samples of products from toothpaste to Tampons. Mail was always backed up which put pressures on carrier foremen from the demands of unrealistic downtown managers and led to some real Hitlers pushing and pushing.

Not tying to make excuses (since I now moan about my own delivery problems, long lines at the local facility, snotty clerks, etc.), but it's not all about the public's perception of overpaid idiots who spend more time at the corner bar than on the street.

There's a lot of built-up hostility in the job environment that tragically vents like this. After management and the union talk a lot of sh*t about change and understanding, it'll be the same ole-same ole situation as before.

If you remember that scene from Seinfeld when Newman starts ranting about the mail and how it's there everyday, everyday, and it doesn't go away...I laugh everytime I see this episode, not only because it's funny, but because it's true.

I got out before I made the headlines too.
32 posted on 02/03/2006 6:55:06 AM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: xsrdx
"In June, police in nearby Grants, N.M., talked to her after someone at a gas station called to complain of nudity, police Chief Marty Vigil said. Sanmarco was dressed when officers arrived."

You weren't in Californication anymore Toto so when you forgot to keep your clothes on when pumping gas, people naturally thought you were just a little bit strange.

33 posted on 02/03/2006 7:03:59 AM PST by MensRightsActivist
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To: Global2010

Charlotte has a husband and three kids. One of her sons is in my sons Scout Troop. I won't say we were real close, but I have know her and her family for several years and gone camping with them, etc. This is going to be rugged for them.


34 posted on 02/03/2006 7:10:38 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: SittinYonder

I am pretty much a 2nd Amendment absolutist - and I think your point is valid about not giving up our natural right to self-defense. That said, this creature was SICK and should have been institutionalized years ago.


35 posted on 02/03/2006 7:14:19 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: toddlintown

They have locked the barn door after the horse ran out - they now have an armed guard in the plant. Idiots.


36 posted on 02/03/2006 7:15:33 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: xsrdx

Gee, I thought the "smartest woman in the world", ole Hillary stated "it takes a village" to raise kids into adults. Perhaps the "village" failed this kid into a monster of an adult.

Yo Hill, it takes a FAMILY. Other typically don't care, don't want to get involved and fear making a judgment call or getting the person help.


37 posted on 02/03/2006 7:17:48 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: Toddsterpatriot
#10 WOW there is quite a resemblance!
38 posted on 02/03/2006 7:18:38 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: xsrdx
"You left the "unions" off the list of reasons why you can kill people easier than fire them."

Unions are constantly agitating employees to find reasons to be discontent with their work, their bosses, their working conditions etc. It helps justify the existence of unions. IMO, union agitation is a destabilizing factor for people who are already unstable (disgruntled). In union agitation, they finally find excuses to justify their discontents.

Yes, you also are insightful to mention how hard unions make it to fire really bad employees. Managers suffer under an endless process of appeals and more appeals, while co-workers observe the non-productive, trouble-making employee, seemingly getting away with all kinds of things, while the "process" drags on at great length. Unions, endlessly defending bad employees, is a real "rate buster."

Many times, unions work as just one more irresponsible social malady to promote the leftist agenda, while undermining economic and social stability.

IMO, if anyone is ever going to undertake an "ethical" study of factors leading to people going "postal," they certainly can't leave out the way union influence affects troubled postal employees.

39 posted on 02/03/2006 7:22:35 AM PST by MensRightsActivist
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To: mlc9852

I was thinking the same thing. I think she looks like a woman and a reasonably attractive one at that. She looks like she could be anything except what she apparently was--a murderous nutcase.


40 posted on 02/03/2006 7:28:30 AM PST by carola
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