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To: Czar
If you cannot support your charges--and naming names is the only way to do that--then admit you are wrong, have no names to cite, and regret your charges.

Look in this very thread for all the evidence you'll ever need. Why, if Mexicans move in next door, the supermarkets will be filthy, you'll have to bar your windows, the neighborhood will become a bario, and who knows what else. All comments lifted from this thread. The evidence is right there under your nose.

304 posted on 02/05/2006 6:47:16 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Melas; Czar

Hmm...

Imprisonment Rates Vary Wildly by Race

A few quotes...

The NCIA said, "During the twelve years we examined (1985 to 1997), the U.S. prisoner population more than doubled from 502,376 to 1,240,962. Nationally, non-whites accounted for 70 percent of this growth in state and federal prisons."

The number of blacks and Hispanics behind bars grew 180 percent from 1985 to 1997 compared with only 102 percent for Anglo whites.

In "Masking the Divide: How Officially Reported Prison Statistics Distort the Racial and Ethnic Realities of Prison Growth," the NCIA broke out Hispanics as a separate category from non-Hispanic whites, which is an improvement on standard government criminological statistics that often ignore Hispanic ethnicity. Until now, comparisons of imprisonment rates across states and races had been confused by law enforcement agencies' tendency to lump Hispanics in with Anglo whites.

"Because prison statistics don't separate out Hispanic/Latinos from other racial groups, we believe the scale of the racial divide in American prisons is masked," stated the report's author, Barry Holman. "Without distinguishing between Hispanic/Latinos, whites and African Americans, the number of white prisoners is significantly overstated."

That's because, according to the NCIA, Hispanics have a 3.7-times-higher rate of imprisonment that non-Hispanic whites, so including Hispanics in the white total made the black-white gap in imprisonment look less enormous than it really is. (In reality, blacks are imprisoned 9.1 times more than Anglo whites.) The NCIA used a variety of statistical techniques to estimate the Hispanic prison population.

So...would you like to..."rethink" that accusation of Racism?

Or shall we continue the game of "Whack-an-OBLer"? Because I can continue to cite facts and statistics all night...while you express your "feelings"...

308 posted on 02/05/2006 7:00:00 PM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Melas
"Look in this very thread for all the evidence you'll ever need."

You don't seem to be doing any better than eastfork. I have no intention of doing his homework for him or your homework for you. It's an exercise in futility. Where you see racism in a post, I don't. Eastfork has leveled racism charges he cannot support, despite having a go at naming me. It didn't fly. He has failed completely. But I can see you're undeterred.

"Why, if Mexicans move in next door, the supermarkets will be filthy, you'll have to bar your windows, the neighborhood will become a bario, and who knows what else. All comments lifted from this thread."

I find these kinds of personal experiences credible, as do others on this thread. Not all that unusual in southern California. Have someone take you on a tour of east LA, San Pedro, Wilmington or Santa Ana sometime. Better yet, move there. Then you will have your own experience to relate.

" The evidence is right there under your nose."

Your nose, perhaps. Not mine.

While you and eastforker see a racist under every bed, all I see are loyal American conservatives determined to fight each and every attempt to do away with American sovereignty, secure and protected borders, and the preservation of American culture, traditions, customs and language. If, in your eyes, this constitutes racism--tough.

359 posted on 02/06/2006 1:35:29 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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