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To: verity; WKB; onyx; dixiechick2000; bourbon
It's all about cultural views and one's self identity. That forms all perspective.

I had a frank talk with a very liberal Jewish lady attorney friend of mine on the phone yesterday. I thought about doing a vanity thread over it. Pondered it all night. She simply had to talk about Bush whom she loathes with every fiber of her being. I really like this woman, she valiantly defended me once and considers me her favorite good ol boy.

She thinks Bush is stupid.

She openly said she thinks Christians in power here is bad for Jews. (I refrained from telling her I felt the same about secular Jewish lefties..lol)

Abortion is her crucible.

She would support McCain...lol


Precious few folks can transcend who they are. There is no doubt my being a Southern Prod makes it more likely for me to be very conservative just as much as her being an urban Jew makes it more likely for her to be a lefty.

It's just how it is. Look at arguments here. Scratch the surface and the stereotypical rationale is more often than not lurking underneath.

after my 45 minute "discussion" with her, I felt sorta detached...kind like when I was a kid and you're in a relationship with a woman and realize it's only about the sex...there's nothing else to say and you want to get out of there

i rarely talk to liberals anymore
24 posted on 02/03/2006 8:21:52 AM PST by wardaddy (Southern American)
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To: wardaddy
i rarely talk to liberals anymore

We all have our limits wardaddy. Stay safe, stay Southern!

25 posted on 02/03/2006 8:24:00 AM PST by stainlessbanner (^W^)
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To: wardaddy; dixiechick2000; onyx; WKB; stainlessbanner

I have a friend from the poorly-lit recesses of Northern Alabama who is an economist. He used to work on Wall Street. He would frequently tell his buddies from NYC exactly what Wardaddy said: His upbringing imbued in him a reflexive conservatism, just as their upbringing was steeped in a reflexive liberalism.

The NYers agreed with the first part of that statement but bridled at the second part. Like many New Yorkers, he said they had gorged themselves on an dangerous and illusory cosmopolitanism--the kind which presumes that growing up in a blue state or a major city blesses you with a certain objectivity and a infallible moral stature. He said they simply refused to acknowledge the limitations of their own upbringings or the culture in which they were reared. In fact, they even denied having a culture, feeling that they had transcended it. They also denied being socialized into liberalism and instead contended that they chose it freely and completely.

Such are the delusions of liberals and cultural eltists....


29 posted on 02/03/2006 9:02:03 AM PST by bourbon (everything inside screams for second life)
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To: wardaddy
...i rarely talk to liberals anymore.

Amen. Life is too short to waste the time trying to rationalize the actions and thought processes of these idiots. One of the reasons my wife and I are scraping New England out of the bottom of our shoes and are returning to Tennessee.

32 posted on 02/03/2006 9:14:39 AM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: wardaddy

i rarely talk to liberals anymore



Save that breath and blow your coffee with it.


40 posted on 02/03/2006 10:23:48 AM PST by WKB (Jesus Saving the Baptist\ The Baptist saving the South, The South saving the Nation)
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To: wardaddy; bourbon

I deal with the same thing out here.
The folks in Portland can't understand conservatives,
much less why anyone would want to be one.
I am not talking about the unwashed anarchists, ELF folks,
and others of that ilk.
I'm talking about lawyers, bankers, physicians...professionals.
These are the supposed cultural elite?
They can't see past the nose on their face.

I'm the "different" one in this crowd.

I do everything in my power NOT to go to downtown Portland.
The last time I was there, a lesbian hit on me.
I don't take to kindly to that.
She wasn't even a lipstick lesbian. lol


BTW, many of those professionals are aging hippies
who did go quite a way towards conformity.
They wear nice suits, and carry beautiful briefcases.
However, they are, also, sporting gray ponytails,
and wearing Birkenstocks. ;o)


67 posted on 02/03/2006 9:31:45 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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