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To: speekinout
Having a way for people to come here legally does do a lot to stop illegal entry. How could you possibly argue otherwise?

I didn't argue otherwise. What I argued was that making the program available to illegals here does nothing to stop illegal entry, and proposing it encourages it.

[If you really think that securing the land border would be ineffective at doing anything about the problem, does this mean you'd favor eliminating the Border Patrol altogether?]

That's silly.

So can I take that as a no?

80 posted on 02/06/2006 6:52:26 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: inquest
What I argued was that making the program available to illegals here does nothing to stop illegal entry, and proposing it encourages it.

You're not being clear about the difference between people who are already here illegally, and ones who might come illegally in the future. Are you saying that we should let the people who are here illegally stay here illegally? I'm not in favor of that, and closing borders doesn't help.

I think people who are looking for an easy answer (eg., build a wall between the US and Mexico) are deluded. There are many ways to get here, and I've already mentioned many of them. Border control is only one part of it.

I'm quite convinced that we need to give people a legal way to get here (if they are people we want to come), and that we need to find a way to locate the people that we really don't want to be here.

81 posted on 02/06/2006 7:10:39 PM PST by speekinout
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