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How utterly stupid!
1 posted on 02/02/2006 1:40:02 PM PST by FerdieMurphy
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To: FerdieMurphy

yeah, here's redo of that editorial cartoon. A stab thee islamic terrorists!
http://kokonutpundits.blogspot.com/2006/02/mohammed-and-his-thousand-papercuts.html


2 posted on 02/02/2006 1:42:16 PM PST by kokonut
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To: FerdieMurphy

But they support the troops!


3 posted on 02/02/2006 1:42:59 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Insensitive bastards!


4 posted on 02/02/2006 1:45:03 PM PST by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches, hard to get rid of.>)
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To: FerdieMurphy
Memo to the generals -- remember these 2 words:

FIRST AMENDMENT

5 posted on 02/02/2006 1:46:36 PM PST by MurryMom
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To: FerdieMurphy

Check this s&*t out from E & P

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001956576

President of Cartoonists Association Hails 'Wash Post' for Backing Toles

By Dave Astor

Published: February 02, 2006 1:40 PM ET

NEW YORK Clay Bennett said the Joint Chiefs of Staff have more important things to do than write a letter criticizing a Tom Toles drawing.

"They should be as concerned with the soldiers in the field as they are with a cartoon in The Washington Post," said Bennett, president of the Association of American Editorial Cartoonists (AAEC), when reached Thursday by E&P. "Maybe they should provide the body armor soldiers need to help avoid the sort of injury shown in the cartoon."

This Sunday's Toles cartoon pictured a quadruple amputee being visited in a hospital by "Dr. Rumsfeld," who says: "I'm listing your condition as 'battle hardened.'" The Joint Chiefs letter, published in Thursday's Post, said Toles was making fun of the soldier, and called his cartoon "reprehensible." Others noted that Toles was actually commenting on Rumsfeld, the state of the Army, and the carnage caused by the Iraq War. The Post has defended running the cartoon.

"It appears they [the Joint Chiefs] interpret cartoons as accurately as they do pre-war intelligence," Bennett said. The Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist for The Christian Science Monitor added: "It was a tough cartoon on [Defense Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld, but he certainly deserves tough cartoons."

People, said Bennett, can be "purposely obtuse to pick a fight. You can always take a cartoon at face value -- rather than looking at it as a metaphor -- and make it something it's not."

Bennett concluded by praising the Post for backing Toles: "It's great to see a newspaper supporting their cartoonist under this kind of pressure. A lot of papers would have buckled under far less pressure."

Toles' cartoons are distributed by Universal Press Syndicate, while Bennett's work is syndicated by The Christian Science Monitor News Service.


6 posted on 02/02/2006 1:47:27 PM PST by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

And this...

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001955937


UPDATE: 'Wash Post' Defends Toles Cartoon That Drew Angry Protest Letter from Joint Chiefs
Photo by Julia Ewan/The Washington Post
Tom Toles' editorial cartoon runs in about 200 newspapers.


By Joe Strupp, Dave Astor and Greg Mitchell

Published: February 01, 2006 4:25 PM ET updated Thursday

NEW YORK A Tom Toles editorial cartoon published in The Washington Post on Monday and on its Web site has drawn a very rare and very strong protest letter to the editors from all six members of The Joint Chiefs of Staff, E&P learned Wednesday.

The letter was published in the Post on Thursday, along with a separate column by Howard Kurtz in which Toles, and Editorial Page Editor Fred Hiatt, responded. Hiatt said, "While I certainly can understand the strong feelings, I took it to be a cartoon about the state of the Army and not one intended to demean wounded soldiers." He added that he doesn't "censor Tom."

Kurtz also quoted Dave Autry, deputy communications director for Disabled American Veterans, saying he was "certainly not" offended by the cartoon.

The letter, written on Tuesday, charges that the six military leaders "believe you and Mr. Toles have done a disservice to your readers and your paper's reputation by using such a callous depiction of those who have volunteered to defend this nation, and as a result, have suffered traumatic and life-altering wounds. ... As the Joint Chiefs, it is rare that we all put our hand to one letter, but we cannot let this reprehensible cartoon go unanswered."

A Pentagon spokeswoman confirmed the contents of the letter to E&P on Wednesday afternoon. That the newspaper had received such a letter was reported on the popular AmericaBlog site, which is run by John Aravosis, this morning.
Download a copy of the letter (PDF)


The spokeswoman said a letter from all six joint chiefs to anyone, let alone a newspaper, is rare, but the cartoon so offended them, they wanted to let their feelings be known. "It was expressing their disappointment with the paper and outrage at using that image to make a political point," said Lt. Col. Diane Battaglia.

Reached by E&P, Tom Toles said, "no comment." But he told Kurtz he did not regret what he drew.

The Toles cartoon shows a soldier, a quadruple amputee, in a hospital, being visited by a Dr. Rumsfeld who is scribbling on a form. Rumsfeld says, "I am listing your condition as battle hardened." At the bottom a smaller figure of the doctor adds, "I'm prescribing that you be stretched thin. We don't define that as torture."

Talking to Kurtz, Toles cited recent remarks by Rumsfeld about "battle-hardened" troops and "what came soon to mind was the catastrophic level of injuries the Army and members of the armed services have sustained . . . I thought my portrayal of it was a fair depiction of the reality of the situation. I certainly never intended it to be in any way a personal attack on, or a derogatory comment on, the service or sacrifice of American soldiers."

As for the Joint Chiefs' letter, he said: "I think it's a little bit unfair in their reading of the cartoon to imply that is what it's about."

The letter, signed by Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Admiral Edmund P. Giambastini, Jr., the vice-chairman, and the four other military branch leaders -- and addressed to the Post's managing editor, Philip Bennett -- reveals that they were "extremely disappointed" in the Toles cartoon. "Using the likeness of a service member who has lost his arms and legs in war as the central theme of a cartoon is beyond tasteless," they wrote.

They observed that the paper is "obviously free to address any topic," even use exaggeration. But they added: "While you or some of your readers may not agree with the war or its conduct, we believe you owe the men and women and their families who so selflessly serve our country the decency to not make light of their tremendous physical sacrifices."

Hiatt, The Post's editorial page editor, told Kurtz "a cartoonist works best if he or she doesn't feel there's someone breathing over their shoulder." He explained that he comments on drafts of cartoons but Toles is free to ignore them.

Aravosis from AmericaBlog told E&P: "Now that the Joint Chiefs have addressed the insidious threat cartoons pose to our troops, perhaps they can move on to less pressing issues like getting them their damn body armor."
Joe Strupp, Dave Astor and Greg Mitchell (letters@editorandpublisher.com)


8 posted on 02/02/2006 1:48:42 PM PST by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

bookmk ping for later


13 posted on 02/02/2006 2:02:41 PM PST by Dad yer funny
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want to toast the post butts here it is. 250 just went out.

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22 posted on 02/02/2006 6:20:37 PM PST by CHICAGOFARMER (12 TH GENERATION PATROIT.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Sometimes I wish I read the Post, just so I could boycott it.


24 posted on 02/02/2006 6:34:01 PM PST by Casloy
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To: FerdieMurphy

Well, thank God that no one has to purchase the Washington Post. Or read it. It would be nice to see a few days where the WP is not mentioned on FR.


25 posted on 02/02/2006 6:36:16 PM PST by petitfour
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To: FerdieMurphy

Here's a link to the offending cartoon.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/cartoonsandvideos/toles_main.html?name=Toles&date=01292006


26 posted on 02/02/2006 6:55:12 PM PST by TChad
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To: FerdieMurphy; MurryMom
by using such a callous depiction of those who have volunteered to defend this nation, and as a result, have suffered traumatic and life-altering wounds.

This line in the article assumes that this is the heart of the generals' protest. I'll wait to see their letter before deciding that.

However, the generals did say that the paper is free to publish what it wants. They obviously recognized the first amendment. Some posters on Free Republic might need a refresher course in reading....or maybe a comprehension course.

In any case, is the depiction callous. I would say that it is. The cartoon does depict the quadriplegic soldier as a bit of blob with bandages on chubby limbs.

It is a callous portrayal of those who sacrifice for our nation. Had they portrayed the soldier in some way that was respectful of the sacrifice that individual had made, then perhaps they could still have made their point that they disagree with Rumsfeld.

Actually, I don't think the SecDef takes soldier suffering lightly at all.

So, besides being a callous portrayal of the suffering soldier, it is clear that the intended message is propaganda.

52 posted on 02/04/2006 6:34:50 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: FerdieMurphy
...that man is a Hero.

Mr. Bush, he deserves a special place of honor now that he has bravely endured not only our enemies assaults but also an assault by the leftist media.

57 posted on 02/20/2006 8:42:46 AM PST by Earthdweller ("West to Islam" Cake. Butter your liberals, slowly cook France, stir in Europe then watch it rise.)
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