Posted on 02/02/2006 10:47:06 AM PST by LNewman
He's just a real-l-ly special person. GAK!
Membership in a CoC use to mean something else ... don't see them maintaining that status.
What other lawbreakers will they be boycotting for next? It's no wonder so many Latino countries are $h!+. A country can only be as good as its people.
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? (heh heh heh heh)...the Spectre knows.
Who are you trying to kid? Name one article that shows any "harassment of American Born Mexicans ( I assume that's what you're referring to). I can show you plenty that are the reverse. Many American Mexicans are being called coconut and being threatened by those you support
You are always whinning that we here on this forum call illegal aliens "criminals".
Here's a challenge for you. Show me any proof of US citizens harming illegal aliens (other than other "immigrants" who exploit them!) I will give you a hundred examples of US citizens being killed, rapped, robbed, run over by drunk aliens to every one you can produce. I'll even give you one (the only one I know of). A couple months ago some illegals were killed by a group of inner city gangbangers.
One last question. Do you think it's okay for illegls to stand on the street corners demanding that US citizens get out of "their country" because it belongs to the illegals??
Put up or shut up.
Sorry - this question took more time than I had last night - so, "what I am trying to achieve in life?" Whew! First, I know that I am nothing, and can achieve nothing, without my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. So, I have to love Him and love my neighbor (including aliens living in the U.S.) as myself. That means knowing and obeying Him is the most important achievement - is that what you are asking?
Apart from that, the most important "job" I have is being the head of a Christian household, where I must love my wife as Christ loves the Church and raise up our son to be a good Christian citizen. As a Christian, I am also called to bring the Good News to people and invite them into God's family, develop them into Christlike maturity, and equip them for their ministry in the Church and life mission in the world, in order that we all magnify God’s name. What I am trying to achieve here on this thread is strike some balance between rounding up / deporting every person with Brown skin and completely open borders - there must be SOME compromise there.
Finally, am I "wealthy"? As I stated above, spiritually, I could not be more rich, and compared to the rest of the world, most Americans are economically "wealthy" but yes, even for our area, we are well off financially, but very conscious and proactive about where we will spend money. That's why I think Costa Mesa should think twice about its immigration-enforcement plan - South Coast will lose money, and not just from me.
Now, if you (or anyone else) is caught up in the allure of money and materialism that surrounds us (especially here in Southern California), and you want a fresh perspective on what the Bible says about stewardship, then come to our Church service this weekend: www.saddleback.com If you want the truth, what we think we own really belongs to God. That being said, I don't think I was "boasting" about my wealth above - if the person I was asking that honest question took it as such, I sincerely apologize - I thought he understood the question exactly as intended since we went on to discuss and eventually agree to disagree about where we each will spend our money.
Any more questions?
If the City of Costa Mesa goes through with its immigration enforcement plan, my family will join Nativo Lopez's call for a boycott - that's what I meant by "our" - I did not even know his name before the City's actions.
I have decided, thank you very much.
How can you possibly have a problem with this. It's about aliens suspected of CRIMES!
You stand only for criminality. Doesn't bode well for your claim of Christianity.
People like you are a threat to this country and it doesn't matter a bit what color you are. Treason knows no color.
Now, my question AGAIN. Name some facts about crime against illegal aliens by your dreaded "white man"!
I just answered you question - sorry it was not fast enough for you - I will agree that treason knows no color though.
Nice try. No, you didn't answer the question. Give me examples of murders, rapes, drunk driving homicides,etc. against illegals by US citizens. You and I both know that more Americans have died at the hands of illegal aliens than died on 9/11. Sure illegals are exploited and you condone it. I don't.
Put up or shut up.
Well, I'm not shutting up, especially since my point has never been that there are lots and lots of "murders, rapes, drunk driving homicides, etc. against illegals by U.S. citizens" - if I come across some examples, I will do my best to forward them to you.
Perhaps you are mistaking me for someone else who is "always whinning that we here on this forum call illegal aliens 'criminals'"?
I don't see your answer to Watching's question.
Since the police will only be checking the legal status "... on people suspected of serious crimes..." that doesn't seem to leave much leeway for "harrasment of anyone with brown skin" (parphrased).
You would have to first be suspected of a "serious crime" to have your legal status checked.
Why would you (or anyone) have a problem with this policy ?
Here are the only "questions" Watching has asked, and I've answered both:
"Who are you trying to kid?"
"Do you think it's okay for illegls to stand on the street corners demanding that US citizens get out of 'their country' because it belongs to the illegals??"
And, one "challenge" (which I have addressed as well):
"Show me any proof of US citizens harming illegal aliens (other than other 'immigrants' who exploit them!) I will give you a hundred examples of US citizens being killed, rapped, robbed, run over by drunk aliens to every one you can produce. I'll even give you one (the only one I know of). A couple months ago some illegals were killed by a group of inner city gangbangers."
As for your question, I believe they will start "suspecting" more and more brown-skinned people of serious crimes as a ruse to ask their immigration status - but if EVERY person regardless of color is asked to prove he / she is an American citizen when arrested in the City of Costa Mesa, then I would not have a problem - equal protection thing. Now, do you think the City is going to be checking the immigration status of every black or white person they arrest?
I think they know how to play the game just fine. The game is keep testing the boundaries until somebody stops you. So far, this country has been acting like... wellll like... like an excessively feminine male getting picked on in the schoolyard. Ooouch! Stop, oh that HURTS! WAAH!
I didn't say I would support it - I said I would have no problem with it, i.e. I would be neutral and would not join the boycott - but I atill think there are much more important priorities for local police. At least it would not be an equal protection violation.
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