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As I look forward to doing all the BS that is involved with filing my taxes I think it is a good time to bring this back up. A national Sales tax to replace the current tax structure. I mention the fair tax to people all the time. I like it a great deal.

There is no doubt that most people are disgusted with the current tax code. People look forward every year to their "rebates" or "I got ____$ back this year, I did well". But to me that is a bunch of crap. Wow! what a great deal, I pay in 1/5 of my check every week then at the end of the year I get a few hundred back, or a few thousand. The politicians love it, b/c they get loads of money to do whatever they want with, and b/c we get all excited about our big refund, never mind the fact that we've payed gobs of money into the system all year round.

I've read the FairTax book and if you are tired of a mountain of paperwork near Apr 15 (happens to be my Bday)- you should do some research and read this book or at least check out the fair tax to get some information about it.

I'm sure there will be some naysayers and detractors but that is their opinion and I'm sure they arent satisfied with the current code.

Admittedly there are some nuances within the fairtax that I dont 100% agree with, but it certainly is better than what I deal with now.

Particularly the language of the percentage rates of 23%, Which is an embedded figure. It can be confusing at first but look at this chart to understand.

Anyway lets get this thing rolling. Hopefully 2006 will be the last year with the current structure. Direct a few questions here and I will try to help or I'm sure there are others here more versed than I, that will surely add their 2cents.

1 posted on 02/02/2006 7:35:35 AM PST by thehumanlynx
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To: thehumanlynx

Oh, I would heartily approve of a national sales tax on the provision that all income based government deductions were removed and never allowed while the national sales tax is in effect.

Even the libs should support it. After all, it has that oh-so-important aspect of taxing the rich more than the poor (as the rich buys more stuff or more expensive stuff) and it definitely has a large endorsement for having people save money (i.e. if you don't spend, you're not taxed) built into it's very nature.


2 posted on 02/02/2006 7:40:40 AM PST by Kidan (Tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: thehumanlynx

I talk abut this to folks alot. I'm constantly surprised by the number of people who still have no idea what it's about, and then by their attitude that it will just never happen. We need to keep it in front of people.


3 posted on 02/02/2006 7:45:46 AM PST by John SBM
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To: thehumanlynx

I love the FairTax we just have to be sure to repeal the 16th amendment 1st!!!

Don't want to be double taxed!


7 posted on 02/02/2006 8:01:02 AM PST by The Bat Lady (Hey Glenn, I get it!)
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To: ancient_geezer; Taxman; pigdog

Ping-a-ling


11 posted on 02/02/2006 8:19:48 AM PST by kevkrom ("...no one has ever successfully waged a war against stupidity" - Orson Scott Card)
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To: thehumanlynx

Anyone lobbying for the FT needs to keep three realities
in mind:

1. Like all institutions, the prime directive at the IRS
is the perpetuation of the IRS. They are probably already
threatening to audit politicians who support the FT.

2. For semi-honest pols, the FT nearly eliminates their
ability to effect policy by granting tax favors/penalties
to influence business and personal behaviour. This isn't
just a matter of social policy, but also vote-buying.

3. For crooked pols, they not only lose the vote-buying,
but they also totally lose the IRS as a political weapon.

When their "objection" to the FT doesn't make sense,
pick one or more of the above reasons.


12 posted on 02/02/2006 8:37:03 AM PST by Boundless
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To: thehumanlynx; Taxman; pigdog; Principled; EternalVigilance; rwrcpa1; phil_will1; kevkrom; ...
A Taxreform bump for you all.

If anyone would like to be added to this ping list let me know.

John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25) offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright and replace them with with a national retail sales tax administered by the states.

H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

Refer for additional information:


16 posted on 02/02/2006 9:18:09 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: thehumanlynx

Whatever happened to all the talk about the flat tax? That's what appealed to me. Obviously second to a completely free market, however.


18 posted on 02/02/2006 9:49:26 AM PST by justt bloomin ("Political correctness is really the only form of hate speech." Mike Adams, UNC-W)
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To: thehumanlynx

Good post. Welcome to FR!


28 posted on 02/02/2006 12:33:03 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."- Reagan)
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To: thehumanlynx

Great post. I agree the fair tax may not be perfect but it's a hell of a lot better than the disaster we have now.


31 posted on 02/02/2006 3:11:50 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support the New Media and F.R.)
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To: thehumanlynx
First, please let's not call a National Sales Tax a FairTax. Maybe its just me but as soon as I hear the gov't use that word 'fair' or 'share' or 'equal' I pucker up my lips and hope I at least get kissed this time around
because I know what else is coming!

Now, maybe somebody can help me out here, I've been IRAing and 401King to the max since the inception of these programs anticipating that when I do get taxed on this money, it will be at a much lower rate since I'll be retired and not have any earned income. With a consumption tax I'll not be taxed at any lower rate since it will not be income bracket driven. Therefore, while saving is a good thing, there don't seem to have been any ultimate advantage after all to pre-tax savings.
I like the Flat Tax a lot better. Young, old, black, white we all pay the same! Unless Democrats regain control, then we're back to 'fair' and 'share' and 'poor' and 'tax the rich' and 'equal' and we'll have a million Flat Tax rates!
40 posted on 02/16/2006 12:05:33 PM PST by Shooter1001
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To: thehumanlynx
In the future, please include full attribution when posting articles. IOW - fill in all the blanks.

Thanks,

AM

42 posted on 02/16/2006 1:09:08 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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