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To: hedgetrimmer

'It looks like you are arguing that the founders designed our republic incorrectly.' - If I did it was never my intention!

As a free trader I do advocate - as you say ... a kind of anarchy (also known as a kind of freedom??!)

The founders advocated free trade. They also advocated the rule of Law. Because you embrace free trade you must also invoke the rule of law. (And these laws must be passed by a representative body - not fiat). I do not advocate a kind of anarchy as in the law of the jungle.

It is interesting to me your thought process regards multinationals. These multis protect themselves with the laws of a government they wish to destroy? Would that not lead to their own loss of these protections and hence their assets?

Free trade has nothing to do with Global Socialism - and it is not - as this article suggests - a reason for more economic nationalism.

The sugestion that the dutch experience was caused by free trade has little merit. Their demise was caused by the economic nationalism of their autocratic neighbors.

The more things that you can freely purchase - the less need to raise a militia to go out and take those items you can't find on ebay.


45 posted on 02/03/2006 11:49:18 AM PST by VoodooEconomics
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To: VoodooEconomics
The founders advocated free trade

Really? I wonder why they decided that the federal government should be funded by tariffs? And why President Washington instituted tariffs while in office?

Because you embrace free trade you must also invoke the rule of law

Really? Then why is "free trade" system run by a supranational institution that has been granted unconstitutional authority over our ability to trade, in opposition to the US rule of law? Why is the US "free" to trade with known slave nations, when slavery is illegal in this country? Why can the WTO supersede our laws and require us to trade with communists as part of their multilateral trading system, when left to our own moral predilections, we as a nation wouldn't do it?

These multis protect themselves with the laws of a government they wish to destroy?

Yes. They use the US to protect their assets in many ways, including OPIC and the INF. They also expect our military to protect their assets and their cargoes at sea. They want the taxpayer to fund infrastructure development in foreign countries so they can outsource and offshore, but they do not reimburse the taxpayer for those costs. They also pursue an agenda through the US congress of treaty making that usurps the authority of the American people and gives authority over them to supranational institutions. This will destroy our government ultimately and since they will have the institutions in place, like the WTO the International Criminal Court etc etc, they won't need the poor duped American people any more.

Free trade has nothing to do with Global Socialism

Really? Pascal Lamy Director General of the WTO is a socialist, as are many members. Their programs of "trade capacity building" and advantaging "least developed countries" to "fight poverty" are completely and utterly socialist.

The more things that you can freely purchase - the less need to raise a militia to go out and take those items you can't find on ebay.

Are you saying this is how you would behave? I haven't seen anyone advocating this.
50 posted on 02/03/2006 12:12:24 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: VoodooEconomics
The founders advocated free trade.

Alexander Hamilton wasn't one of them.

Indeed, the founding experience of the Republic cured it of the siren song of free trade for a long time. Both America and France were plunged into depression by the free trade policies which the British tricked them into adopting, as part of the 1783 treaty which ended the Revolutionary War.

Patriots in America succeeded in solving the crisis by creating a strong central government with the Constitution, and George Washington's and Alexander Hamilton's fiscal policies, funding the government with tariffs, and promoting the manufactures of diverse goods domestically...and hence strengthening the economic basis for UNION.

53 posted on 02/03/2006 12:38:00 PM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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